The Palestinians cutting the hand that feed them, again!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #161
    Ohad, you will find (in time) that most of the short lived posts by the even shorter lived people here tend to make things up as they go along.

    Its a growing trend lately.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #162
    thanks ohad.
    Do you realize that removing millions of people is not going to work and probably is not a nice thing to do? Especially since they do not want to go?
    Of course you are welcome to sue the British. They thought that US should be their colony also. They lied to the Arabs too, and this is how this unfortunate situation has been created.
    I think the best way forward is to give up the question of who started this first as it has derailed the peace process

    I want to ask you if you are willing to accept the map that you wanted [orange map ] without the transfer.
    Or you would be willing to change your map to accommodate the Palestinians.
    To hold the progress of peace in the hope of removing the Palestinians someday seems like a being dishonest to ones self. It has been 60 years and there are more Palestinians now than when it started. Also in the years past civil engineering has improved so probably there is enough land to fit twice as many people.
    I think there is a solution for most of the issues facing Israel and Palestinians if they agree to the obvious which is they have to live next to each other and concentrate their efforts to reach an acceptable solution for both sides rather than bickering.
    i am not saying that there is a great solution or i know the best but i think there are some acceptable solution.
     
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  3. imad

    imad Peon

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    #163
    I understand from this that you do not know?
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #164
    Makes perfect sense to me. El Mufti was "one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry". The SS planned and executed the operation of the death camps.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #165
    what is the point that you are trying to make?
    lets say all the things you say about him is true. so what?what conclusion you want to make?
     
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  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #166
    I think the point is complicity and denial.

    I think in the context of the news, like this item from today, it has relevance.

    Jewish leaders concocted the mass murder of handicapped Jews in order to keep from having to support them, and this murder is what the Jews term "the Holocaust," according to a documentary special that aired on April 18 on Hamas's Al Aqsa television station.

    Palestinian Media Watch located and translated the contents of the footage, which it uploaded to YouTube under the headline "Hamas: Jews planned Holocaust." source source 2
     
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  7. imad

    imad Peon

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    #167
    Thanks for the links browntwn :)

    I think in Gaza strip, there is no law that punish with jail anybody who tries to question ww2 events and the holocaust, and if it happened the way victors said, then they should not be bothered if somebody questioned it, because it will only prove what the victors wrote.

    to answer you Ohad, there are 51 documents that proves it:

    51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
     
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  8. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #168
    I do not think it should be illegal to deny or make absurd statements about the holocaust in any country. Carry on, say whatever you want.
     
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  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    #169
    I believe the same, I already said what I wanted to say, you can ask if you have questions
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #170
    Holocaust denial in the Middle East is a denial of both responsibility and beliefs. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called a 'myth' the extermination of 6 million Jews during World War II.

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    Faisal Husseini the grandson of El Mufti and PLO representative in Jerusalem in a speech in Beirut in April 2001 said:

    ... there is a difference between the strategic goal of the Palestinian people, which is not willing to give up even one grain of Palestinian soil, and the political [tactical] effort that has to do with the [present] balance of power and with the nature of the present international system. The latter is a different effort than the former. We may lose or win [tactically] but our eyes will continue to aspire to the strategic goal, namely, to Palestine from the river to the sea. Whatever we get now cannot make us forget this supreme truth.

    Husseini also constantly praised and encouraged the ongoing Palestinian Arab violence against Israel. For example, he said on December 5, 2000:

    The Palestinians are waging a war of independence that will end only when the last Israeli settler leaves the territories, and when Palestinians become a majority in the Holy Land, they will decide whether to allow the Jews to have a state.
     
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  11. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #171
    You cant deny facts
    Im sorry if its hard to watch, life sucks partly because holocaust denials are living among us.

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    #172
    The fact that ww2 was horrible and disgrace to mankind is not deniable, also the fact that Zionist offered alliance with Nazis in 1941, and have collaborated with them, its documented.
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #173
    Can you show the source? Your statements are Insane
     
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  14. Ohad

    Ohad Guest

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    #174
    I don't believe this crap. How Jews can cooperate with the Nazis?
    it's the holocaust day now in Israel, so please stop spread lies on this topic only for this day.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #175
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  16. imad

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    #176
    just read your post, respect to all war victims

    we are discussing here, if they were lies, I m sure victims will rest knowing they been proven as lies, if they are not, I am sure they will rest too, speaking about it only bothers those who are still alive.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #177
    He tells Zionists not Jews. Not every Jews are Zionists
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #178
    Fiction, its a lie
     
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    #179
    how did you know?
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #180

    They are not denying it, they just don't give a hoot... I mean come on.. They were just Jews. :confused:
     
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