Dying to win

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by LinkSales, Apr 29, 2008.

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    Never have a read a book that was more mindblowing than Dying to win by Robert Pape. Its not about politics, every statement in the book is backed by research on every suicide terrorism activity from 1980 to modern day 9/11. Each attack follows the same basic pattern/rationale.

    Has anyone else read this book or heard of it? For anyone who hasn't, its one of the best political/educational reads you'll ever find. From cover to cover, you just cant put it down.

    From the inside cover:

     
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  2. guerilla

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    I've been plugging this book on here for some time. I believe it's on Ron Paul's new reading list.

    It was on the reading list he gave Rudy Giuliani. lol

    Doubt the resident *cough* conservative Hawks are familiar with Dr. Pape and his pentagon financed studies at the Chicago Suicide Terrorism Project...

    Many people don't like to find out that what they believe is not true.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Are there any free/free chapters to read from that book ?
     
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    webwork Banned

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    FACT: Every suicide terrorist campaign has had a clear goal that is secular and political: to compel a modern democracy to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland.


    This is something fear-mongering knuckleheads will never understand/accept.

    "But they hate us because they are free and rich."

    Silly people.
     
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    So when the suicide bomber blows up people from and in his own country in a coffee shop/store/school or whatever, it is against military forces?

    Does that also fit the train bombings, building bombings, etc.. in other countries not involved?
     
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    Read it again:

    FACT: Every suicide terrorist campaign has had a clear goal that is secular and political: to compel a modern democracy to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland.

    What didn't you get it from this fact? Where did you read that someone claims that bombing civilians is against military forces?
     
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    Did that help?
     
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    I'll repeat again my question and perhaps you should understand it: Where did you read that someone claims that bombing civilians is against military forces?
    Did that help?
     
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    Write Dr. Pape and ask. If you want, I can probably source his email address. PM me if interested.
     
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    Again I highlighted the words. I don't know your native language or I would have it interpreted for you.
    Sorry if I wrote my first statement in a way that didn't completely fit the quoted text. But I see it as fitting to the statement made. How does killing ones own people by blowing oneself up "compel a modern democracy to withdraw military forces"??
     
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    I see what you wanted to say now and I agree with you. His statement ('fact') is partialy wrong.
     
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