Question for Christians

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ncz_nate, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant?" from Christians view ?
     
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    smashcash Peon

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    #22
    Jesus is the Son of God
     
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  3. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #23
    smashcas :
    New King James Version

    Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities

    how to understand this ?
     
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  4. smashcash

    smashcash Peon

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    #24
    Well, Jesus is also God's servant, but I didn't think that is what you were trying to get at. Everyone who does God's work is God's servant.
     
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  5. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Sorry, I had to post that act with my question. I was just doing Googling. Thanks for reply anyway
     
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  6. smashcash

    smashcash Peon

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    #26
    Oh it is fine. And you could find some things that I and other Christians don't have a good answer for. One of these would be the age of the earth. While it could be true that God put those things here to test our faith, I honestly don't buy into that. My answer is I don't know. I believe in my faith, and there are something things that we just don't know. It never really says in the Bible how old the earth is, man has just used it as a reference to try and figure it out. Maybe this can't be done. Maybe the Bible skips large gaps that just aren't important. Or maybe those 7 days when God created the earth weren't really 7 days as we see now, but were 7 days from God's point of view that were really equal to hundreds of thousands or millions of years.

    Or maybe there is error in the scientific way we determine the age of the earth. The conditions thousands of years ago could have been vastly different and because of that make things appear to be many times older than they really are in todays conditions.

    The basic thing is there are some things that just can't be explained in religion right now, just as in many other parts of life. The thing is though, I will continue to believe in God and to trust him, and I am a better person for it.
     
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  7. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Are there any Originals of Bible ?
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    What about the "ORIGINALS"?
    Your King James Bible is attacked by preachers, some intentional and some simply out of ignorance, by "correcting" it with "THE ORIGINALS". There is one itsy-bitsy problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "THE ORIGINALS"! We don't have the "originals" Moses, or Paul, or David wrote. There are no set of "ORIGINALS" on the face of this earth! The ghost of "THE ORIGINALS" is a LIE! See John 8:44!
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    http://www.eaec.org/bibleversions/attack_on_the_bible.htm
     
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  8. smashcash

    smashcash Peon

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    #28
    Yes, none of the original writings exist because the paper they were written on did not last a long time like the paper of today. They had to be constantly copied down every so often in order to be preserved.
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    #29
    If some god is perfect, i abandon that religion because i hate perfectionists. :D

    I like gods that make mistakes, yet try improve themselves rather than telling 100 times "i am perfect" and demanding their followers to echo the same.
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #30
    So, you will worship me then? :p

    I'm not perfect, but I strive to make a perfect world.
     
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    #31
    The Olympians are a pretty funny lot. Growing up, I actually believed in them. What a blast! A sky god who gets the joneses for mortals, a major ass-kicker goddess in Athena, and Dionysius - let's not even go there. The dude knows how to party. :p
     
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    smashcash Peon

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    #32
    Lol, I actually am very interested in those Gods. Obviously I do not believe in them, but I am fascinated by them and how the ancient civilizations worshipped them.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #33
    ziya will just keep on copy/pasting things from common hates sites and no matter how you answer him, you will be hit with more. More often than not the verses have been edited by a muslim scholar enough that the meaning has been completely changed but in ignorance you may not see they changed it. The other thing they will do is flat out lie about Jewish customs - wait for ziya to post the 2-finger test that is common with islam scholars to do.
     
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    smashcash Peon

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    #34
    Yeah I realize that. There will always be haters and liars, and it is a shame that people who don't know any better actually believe them and accept it as truth. I am surprised I haven't heard anyone bring out the old saying that God promotes rape (which is completely false).
     
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    #35
    No way. A god who asks you to worship him, isn't probably worthy of it. :D

    yeah, they are interesting imperfect gods. Goes to show that gods don't have to be ideal or perfect to be worthy of worship.
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #36
    He only likes to wipe out sodomites. And anyone else he didn't like back then.

    I have killed less people than the Abraham based God. Therefore I am better >.>. I have also killed less than Stalin and Hitler, and Bush, and even Mussolini. I've killed less people than any world leader - since I have killed none. Therefore... I should be your god.

    You can send checks to................
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #37
    Why would you think that an imperfect god would be worthy of worship?? An imperfect god should be burned.

    I am glad there is only One GOD and He is perfect. He is the standard of perfection. That, I will worship.
     
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  18. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #38
    What are you talking about man ? Where did you see hate ? I just find random site, by googling. I just asked questions and smashcash answered them. really We understood each others.. really what is wrong with you ?

    Do you mind me asking questions ?
     
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    #39
    Polytheism is not your cup of tea, i see :D
     
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    #40
    right, but how do you know the bible is the correct book to follow and not the koran or whatever hindus, budhists or ancient greeks, romans, egyptians had?
     
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