The Palestinians cutting the hand that feed them, again!

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #81
    Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the El Mufti Haj Amin al Husseini

    http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/templemount.html

    In late 1928 a new phase of violence began with minor disputes between Jews and Arabs about the right of Jews to pray at the Western Wall (Kotel) in Jerusalem. These arguments led to an outbreak of Arab violence in August 1929 when Haj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem, fomented Arab hatred by accusing the Jews of endangering the mosques and other sites holy to Islam.

    http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_riots_1929.php
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    #82
    Arabs knew what is being planned by Zionists, and knew that their country, and holy places are about to be occupied, there were victims from both sides, and there was an investigation which been done at that time, which found that Arabs were living with peace with Jews, before of course Zionists declared their projects in stealing their country Palestine and start to send waves of illegal emigrants, there are also other documents I posted before, in which Zionists themselves admit they treated Arabs very badly, here is a UN document about the incident:

    source
     
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  3. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

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    #83
    What did I lied this time? You can call me a liar 1000 times but it wont' change history and history tells us that you expelled 700,000 Palestinians from their homes, destroyed those homes and whole villages years before Six Day War.
    1948 Palestinian exodus - people who just defend themselfs don't do that.
    Talking to you is waste of time.
     
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  4. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #84
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  5. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #85
    This is aweful... :mad:

    Is there a major difference between israel and Saddam's Iraq? Is there a difference between israel and Apartheid South Africa? Is there a difference between israel and Stalin's Soviet Union?
     
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  6. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #86
    @ohad
    1-could you explain to us what transfer means.
    2-can you show us what it say about this transfer if anything in your school book.
    3-is there an official map of your country?
    4- can you show us the map in your school book
    waiting for you to help everyone understand the detail of your ideas. so we can decide to support it or not
    @other people that support and know about these things can also try to educate me
    i want to hear from the people that know what this transfer is and know of the official map

    i want to see a pro israeli answer not anti-israeli opinion please. once i find that then i will look at the other side.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #87
    Another shinning example collective intelligence of those that follow the religion of hate... :eek:

    Sure, just make all those Yellow Areas Israel.

    Yes, they did live there, before they were Muslim Countries ;)

    Understand or tolerate? It's a bit difficult to tolerate hatred. Understand it, sure..


    I would have to say that the best re-write of history takes place in Islam. They are the masters of revisionism when it comes to historical and religious fact.

    I guess if you say something enough, no matter how untrue, it will eventually become true, right?
     
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  8. imad

    imad Peon

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    #88
    they are still there ;)
     
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  9. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #89
    lol but i think ohad is serious.
    do you have an official map of israel
    do you know what ohad means by transfer and do you support it
    if you do please explain why and be as persuasive as you can be in your reasoning.i would love to know what is israel's plan for palestanians.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #90
    So am I.
    I googled for "official map of Israel".. I suppose anyone could do the same: http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/il.htm
    I think so.
    It is my understanding that "transfer" in this context, is the euphemism for the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the occupied territories to other countries.

    What exactly do you want me to persuade you on? I have no opinion on the subject.
     
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  11. sweetsara

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    #91
    Well then you wouldn't of had a problem with hitler expelling the Jews from their homes and countries? It is the same thing.
     
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  12. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #92
    edit: if the peace process producess its expected result the arabs and israel can make a ISRAELI-ARAB ECONOMIC UNION or IAEU kind of like EU .kind of your yellow area
    ohad's map would work without the expulsion of the arabs ? i can support that also

    thanks mia i found a map also which is more precise but i do not know if it is valid.
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    http://www.zionism-israel.com/maps/Israel_Maps.htm
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #93
    I sometimes wonder if anyone actually reads anymore. I never expressed an opinion, I merely answered a question as to what my interpretation of "transfer" was in the context in which it was mentioned.

    Clearly comparing Israel's defense of their land/people to Hitler and burning/starving Jews is so far removed it's almost deplorable to make such a comment.

    It's a fact that Israel welcomes and peacefully co-exists with Palestinians in their country and has done so for many years.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #94
    How come that map only lists a key for "Occupied by Israel"... No "Occupied by Arabs", no "Occupied by Muslims"???

    I love these morally and ethnically ignorant agenda filled sites. Occupied by... Funny!
     
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    #95
    Probally because it isn't occupied by Arabs. :eek:
     
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  16. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #96
    Because it isn't internationally recognized to be apart of Israel but Israel is occupying it. Not sure on this exact map, but I know that's the standard reason behind them.

    That isn't any 'ethically ignorant agenda' it's simple facts.
     
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  17. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #97
    yes that is why i suspected it and that is why i asked about its validity.
    i was looking for a map like that, but wanted to make sure it is correct i did not read the site. i have my peace agenda and few sites support that on both side. so i never read propaganda sites as much as i can unless i want to debate their validity. here i am just interested in the map
    what do you think about IAEU and ohads map without the expulsion of the arabs?
    i think i can sell both of yours and ohads map without expulsion part.
     
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  18. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #99
    Palestinians are cutting the hand that is occupying their territory and that is killing them.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #100
    Actually it kinda is... Its not the map, or the boundaries at issue here. It's the word Occupied and the lack of mention of a key for the other coloured areas, specifically, brown.

    BTW, the CIA map does not present such a key, which is what I was referring to...

    So the brown areas are occupied by what then? I give up...
     
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