Barack Obama Quotes

Another email I received. Quotes from Barack Obama:

From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father: "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: ; "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

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No real show stoppers, but the quotes definitely show an odd pattern of thinking.

 

What does Obama mean with "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."?

 

I found this on a blog, they claim the whole paragraph from page 261 is:

 

I have no idea. I posted this so that NPT would 'splain it to me.

 

Rebecca, good point. I can really see how people can misconstrue that quote into something deadlier than it really is - all by taking it out of context.

 

It's all false info.

I would only believe it if I you could give me a link to a reliable source

 

Go to Amazon.co.uk. Buy the books. Read them.

 

I've never seen these quotes I think they are out of context but interesting

 

I think it's just a way to bring him down.

 

You don't think he should be judged by his own words?

Is that the way they do things in the U.K.?

 

I really hope Hillary doesn't win. Really.

 

Barack Obama is a good writer. His books may be on many Best-Seller lists.

But would you buy a book written by Hillary? An Autobiography, maybe?

 

If someone wrote a book on Hillary, they would know what a crook she was.

 

Yeah...

But people know all this and still vote for her. Isn't that surprising! Maybe they just don't care who their leaders are...

 

Thanks for showing the full quote - makes all the difference.

As a non-american I guess I shouldn't care who about the U.S. election - but after Bush I think everyone in the world has an interest. Hell I'm not even worried about Bush throwing bombs around the world - a lot of U.S. Presidents get a kick out of that - I'm worried about how he's screwed the financial system - the end result could be total anarchy.

 

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Or at least the Agorists don't think so.

 

Rebecca has done quite nicely. I was one of those ugly Americans, post-911, who allowed myself to succumb to the worst of human nature. I had the "hard stare" against Muslims generally, and I deeply regret it. It is completely the antithesis of the best ideals of America, and worse, it is a descent into primal scapegoatism that has reared its ugly head far too often on our planet.

Obama took a path of courage by saying what he said. He is to be commended, not excoriated.

But then, I find he does this quite often. Many accuse him of saying only the comfortable things - that he is a populist demagogue, in so many words. I find that far from pandering, he says things that are not comfortable to hear.

Now, I guess I'm just wondering what value out of context snippets from an e-mail have in delving into anything substantial. Folks like Bogart, of course, will leap to these with a kind of salacious glee, along the lines of "there's something mysterious, and fishy, and subterranean about Obama;" but the kicker is that these excerpts come from books he's written, utterly transparent, and available to the public. He's hidden nothing.

Basically, Will, I'm kind of with you. The crap that's regularly spewed on the forum is baseless, and one does get tired of just debunking all the time. It would be nice to stay on substance.

It's all so much like accusations of Obama's "vagueness" or "formlessness." The same people on the forum who have accused Obama of being "formless," "without a plan," "just speaks in vagaries," etc. at the same time decry Obama's plans and policies as amounting to nothing more than socialism. Something along the lines of:

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(Of course, consistency isn't exactly Guerilla's strongpoint, from my experience, for instance):

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Will, I would have to include you here, along with Guerilla. Which is it? Is he just a puffpiece, vagaries only, or does he have concrete plans in place, interpretable by some as socialism, and others quite differently?

Since the two worlds - formlessness and substance - cannot co-exist, I am left with the conclusion that Obama very definitely represents the end of the paradigm that has been in place over the last 8 years, and that troubles some.

 

I bet you are shaking in your boots

 

It's strange that Obama has denounced Rev. Jeremiah Wright sermons as "some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58954

Howver a year eairlier Obama is quoted in the Chicago Tribune Obama as saying What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice," Obama said. "He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...=chi-religion-topheadlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

What are you going to do? Post more pictures.

 

You're still succumbing, you've just traded one form of insecure fanaticism for another.

You're really annoying. You pull quotes over a long period of time, and then use the evolution of a position or opinion, as a sign of inconsistency.

When you admit yourself, that you are "one of those ugly Americans", I don't see anyone calling you out as a flip flopper or a neocon, when it's obvious that your mentality has evolved (or rather, rotated) in another direction.

Obama's training is firmly rooted in socialism. He is battling to be the leader of the welfare party. He claims to have intentionally mixed with Marxists.

But no one knows, particularly you, as you have continued to dodge providing a firm answer, what Obama stands for. And in this regard, my ignorance rivals yours, as Obama is only capable of platitudes and populist rhetoric. So much so that I have yet to find one of his supporters, particularly on this forum, who can withstand the simple question, "How did you come to conclude that Obama stands for X, Y and Z?"

This guy might be the most amazing President ever. He might be a global savior.

No one knows. And I don't see how anyone in good conscience can be so absolute and unwavering in their opinion on the unknown.

I've already made it clear that Obama's color, race and religion are irrelevant to me. It is very unlikely you will catch me making an OSAMA joke, unless it's to get a rise out of another poster.

I don't even care about his experience, or lack thereof.

I just want to know what he stands for. Is he a marxist because he sought them out? Are his programs indicative of a socialist mentality?

It's all back to principle. Which you seem to fault as being a failure if principle expenses itself at the cost of progress. But I maintain, that better one lone man in the gang of 535 voting alone, than another man going along with 534 down a path that is neither rational, or moral.

That's the problem with democracy and the democratic mentality. Staying within the confines of the mob mentality is just action, even if it is not just intent or purpose.

So I'll ask again, for what seems like the 100th time on this forum.

What does Obama stand for? And is it rational?