Why Israel should keep provide Gaza fuel?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. Ohad

    Ohad Guest

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    #281
    let's see:
    14 years old girl got killed in a clash between terrorists and IDF. do you think that 14 years old girl like to go to war zones?! no, those cowards and wretches terrorists made her neighborhood a war zone!
     
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    #282
    So you can't prove anything and only thing you have is your word! Logic tells me that IOF made her home a war zone. I wonder who is coward here...
    Where do your soldiers go when they are not at duty? Do they go home to their families?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #283
    you missed the fact that israel has not accepted the cease fire.
    do you support the peace process ?
    do you support the removal the settlements from west bank?
    do you support the two state solution?
    do you support the cease fire with hamas or all palestanians in one shot?
    will you apologize if i prove that israel does not provide schooling for arab kids in east Jerusalem?
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #284
    occupation means occupation. There can not be any excuse for occupation. Some rabbis tell that Golon heights are only for jews, non-jews doesnt have right to it. They(palestine) HAVE RIGHT to fight the end of the occupation. They dont fight for their stomach, for your fuel.
     
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    The Golan heights is an intergral part of Israel populated by Jews and Druze. Many Druze support Israel.
     
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    #286
    The Golan heights is occupied by Israel. It's a integral part of Syria. And your claim about Druze is not true.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights
     
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    #287
    cease fire? what is the utility in cease fire? there is only 1 utility, and it's for Hamas - arming.

    do you support the peace process ? of course i want peace.

    do you support the removal the settlements from west bank? absolutely not! the last thing that will bring peace is 67 borders.

    do you support the two state solution? there is already two states: Israel - Jewish country. Jordan - Palestinian country.

    do you support the cease fire with hamas or all palestanians in one shot? no. i explained this above.

    will you apologize if i prove that israel does not provide schooling for arab kids in east Jerusalem? yes, and please don't try prove me that by post some article of anti-Israeli from the BBC.
     
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    #288
    So you are against cease fire but on the other hand you complain each single day how they attacks you?!? Am I missing something here?

    And btw, all the time here in R&P forum I am telling people that Palestinians have no other solution than fight for their freedom. Anyone that reads your answers can see why I believe in that.
     
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    #289
    in another word you do not want to have a new peace with palestanians because you already have the peace that you want?
    you do not want to have cease fire
    you just want everyone to hold the palestanians down while your bravre soldiers can kill them accidentally when your govt approval rating goes down.
    that does not seems fair
    here is the other thing
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/976126.html
     
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    I complain about they are attacking innocent civilians.
    I complain about they are attacking people that works for providing them fuel.
    I complain about they are attacking people that works for providing them food.
    I complain about they are hiding behind civilians.

    yeah "fighting for freedom". murdering children, that's how they are "fighting for their freedom"
     
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    You can play that again Sam
     
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    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3536087,00.html

    you are so naive. you don't understand that this cease fire that they want has 3 targets - arming, arming and arming.
     
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    Pizzaman is not niave and understands that a cease fire is a wall to behind.

    Peace is not a cease fire.
     
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    #294
    that is when you do not have peace. when you don't want to let them have their homeland.
    what you fail to understand is that sooner or later they will have the capability maybe in 100 years and then they will kill a lot of you. are you taking responsibility for their death?
    as i said i hope and belive that your govt understands this. the only solution is a democratic palestanian estate that ia viable. israel actually should help them succeed.
     
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    #295
    Several hundred Druze are currently in the Israeli army and 70,000 Druze live within Israel.
     
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    yes ceasefire is going to be helpfull israel can reserve the right to stop illegal import of arms.
    the real point is that i feel making peace with palestanian should be a political plus for both side and people should be willing to accept a compromise. i think there is a point that about 65% of arabs and israeli people can agree on. we should ask them to stop bickering like we have done in the past few days and look for solutions and have the courage to show us what must be done. then we can have a vote. of course it would be great if these negotiations were public or maybe a blog about the progress.
     
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    How will Israel stop illegal import of arms without military force?
     
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    And that's related to The Golan Heights and Druze from there how? They are against Israeli occupation and they showed that by refusing Israeli citizenship and staying Syrians.

    And you are defending yourself by killing more children that their soldiers. Nice "defending".
    You can tell fairy tales about how "they hide behind civilians" as long as you want. Only people unable to use logic can believe in them.
     
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    how is she doing it now? israel can ask for the right to intervene militarily when there is arm smuggling ?
     
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    Many Druze support Israel but fear that one day the Golan will be returned to Syria and they will face retaliation from Syria.
     
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