Rabbi's point of view

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by wmghori, Apr 24, 2008.

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    Why a Rabbi don't want 'Israel' to exsist?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE&feature=related

    Even the JEWS don't want 'Israel' to exsist. So who is behind Israel to keep it there. Who is benefiting from its exsistance? Why choose that particular area for zionist setlement? They can be setteled in any part of the world after WWII. (e.g. In USA or Australia, they both have vast area of undeveloped land there and both are very close to Israel) Why didn't these two countries offer land for Israel?

    Can anyone shed some light why a Rabbi is against Israel? Even Cavuto couldn't disagree with him on the points he made.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    Because everybody has their own mind, own opinions and the ability to hold a position different to someone else's, even though they may be of the same religion or race.... perhaps.

    the Jews, or a Jew? Big difference.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    Actually he is refering to TORAH in against of ISRAEL.

    The JEWS. He is not alone in this. Not every jew is zionist. Those who are in favor of israel are zionist.
     
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    there is some nuts orthodoxes that believes, that the Jews should have a country in Israel just after the coming of the Messiah - they are very little part of the Jew, not more then few percents.
    our fathers were in Israel 3000 years ago until the Babylonian captivity, and we wanted the land again.
     
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    Didn't you watch the video?
    The jews is all of them, A jew is one of them.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    I did watch it.

    The JEWS. He is not alone in this. Not every jew is zionist. Those who are in favor of israel are zionist.
     
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    imad Peon

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    you may want to check this website, I do not know if this rabbi belongs to the same group, but they seem to share same beliefs, specially in following Torah teachings:

    http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/mission.cfm
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    It's still not THE Jews. For it to be THE Jews it has to be all of them. Clearly some of them ARE in favour of Israel.

    if you watched the video you should have an understanding of his personal reasons and should have no cause to ask us why he is personally against Israel.
     
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    most of them. not some of them.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    That Rabbi is reffering to torah for jews not having a country.
     
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    No, Some of them.

    "Most" still doesn't equate to "THE jews" though. Words have meanings, Use them properly or don't use them at all.
     
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    most of the Jews are in favor of Israel, and 6 Million (1/3) of the Jews living in Israel. included me :)
     
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    Sorry, I thought you meant most aren't in favour of Israel.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I beg to differ. I don't see the point of taking someone who is not even famous and quoting him just to prove a irrelevant point. If you search hard enough, I believe you can still find people who believe the earth is flat.
     
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    It says nothing about Jews or Israel and much about the person who chose to post it.
     
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    what does it say about the person who post it?
     
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    Do you think posting the video shows that "the JEWS" don't want Israel to exist?

    One does not even need to watch the video to know that is not true. There is no one person who speaks for "the JEWS". They, like Muslims and Christians, all have a mind of their own and their own opinions. Anyone who tries to post a youtube video and claim it speaks for "the JEWS" is fool.
     
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    anti-Israeli.
     
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    as I know he is not alone, he belongs to a group, and there is that site I posted its link above, I do not know if they are the same group or two different groups, as you have your mind, the man in the interview have a mind, and the audience have minds, so if you think its very clear its not true, you should not be bothered if it was viewed by people.
     
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    why you do not say this about the TV channel which invited this man to the interview, and broadcasted it to public?
     
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