Yemeni girl, 8, gets divorce after forced marriage

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  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #21
    I am not at all surprised that you support the "right" of 8yr old girls to be sold off into marriage and molested before they hit puberty. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. sweetsara

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    #22
    If you honestly think Muhammed had sex with her at an early age then i dont know what to say, it says Marriage which Aisha wanted because she needed SUPPORT
     
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  3. imad

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    #23
    I think you did not read the links I posted above, one of them says: "This evidence having been established, there doesn't seem much room for debate about Aishah's age amongst believing Muslims. Until someone proves that in the Arabic language "nine years old" means something other than "nine years old""

    I recommend you to read it all in full.

    being at that time, when a girl is able to get pregnant and have kids, she was able to get marry, if we look it in the eyes of the 21th century, its not acceptable, even in Muslims countries as the case of that Yemini girl, she got divorced, besides the marriage itself was being forced on her which is against the Islamic law.
     
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  4. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #24
    Yea, I've heard from other muslims, Muhammad married her because she was poor and would die from hunger, other muslims say she was not 9 but 16 or 18.

    ".....cAishah, may God be pleased with her, narrated that the Prophet(P) was betrothed (zawaj) to her when she was six years old and he consummated (nikah) his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years. (Sahîh al-Bukhârî, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64)...."

    Of the four ahâdîth in Sahîh al-Bukhari, two were narrated from cAishah (7:64 and 7:65), one from Abû Hishâm (5:236) and one via 'Ursa (7:88). All three of the ahâdîth in Sahîh Muslim have cAishah as a narrator. Additionally, all of the ahâdîth in both books agree that the marriage betrothal contract took place when cAishah was "six years old", but was not consummated until she was "nine years old". Additionally, a hadîth with the same text (matn) is reported in Sunan Abû Dâwûd. Needless to say, this evidence is - Islamically speaking - overwhelmingly strong and Muslims who deny it do so only by sacrificing their intellectual honesty, pure faith or both....."

    This guy beats Muhammad's record by one year!
    Actually the morons are following Muhammad. The father the mother and the girls "husband".
    Muhammad did it, he is the perfect example a muslim should follow and they try hard.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #25
    Muhammad not only convinced Abu Bakr to give up his pre-pubescent daughter, he also got Abu Bakr to kick in a dowry large enough for Muhammad to build himself a new house.

    It pays to be the dominant warlord on the block. :rolleyes:

    This practice of treating young women like property contributes to Yemen's average birth rate of 6.41 children per woman.

    It is also probably part of the cause of Yemen's per capita GDP of $2,400.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  6. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #26
    No denying that according to Hadith, she was only 9 yrs. old when they consummated marriage. In this day and age, I would be completely against it no matter what the circumstance.
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

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    #27
    When you're a warlord who has people murdered for making jokes about them, everything is quite different for you.
     
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    #28
    I've seen this 9 year old thing thrown around a lot. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to the "Islam Religion" but if that is the case, how can anyone in todays day and age be cool with the religion.

    Not that I am cool with the modern day "Christian" religion.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #29
    I am not at all surprised when stupid people try to enforce today's norms on historical situation. :rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_over_human_history

    With an average age which was so low, most people would have been dead only couple of years after they had a child if they wanted to wait until they are 18. Even in medieval Britain which is only 800 years ago (Mohammad and Islam is about 1500 years ago), the age of marriage was 12 years for girls.
     
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    #30
    Personally, I do not. But neither do I support your policy of decapitating children even younger with Hellfire missiles. Or your policy of starving and dehydrating children to death.

    You've got lots to say about Mohammad's crimes/indiscretions/whatever 1500 years ago, but not to much to say about the current killing and genocide you are perpetuating on the children of the world.

    Let me ask, if Mohammad did molest one girl who was his wife, what does that make Bush and Clinton, who combined have probably killed thousands of young girls, and thousands more young boys?

    This is why I believe you are a fake libertarian. Murder is evil under all circumstances.

    That will be logic overload for some.

    I don't approve of the age of marriage, but culturally, that is normal for this group of people, going back hundreds and hundreds of years. To single out Mohammad for what would have been a fairly normal practice (Aisha was already engaged to another first) in that period, is ridiculous. We could step all of the way through and recriminate thousands of historical figures.
     
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    #31
    Well than guerilla lets" step all of the way through and recriminate thousands of historical figures." find some who did that.
     
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    #32
    not only to a specific group of people:


    source
     
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    #33
    Disgusting --- of these people who actually marry to a 8 year old child... very bad
     
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    #34
    See imad's post. Then go back and find my post where I quoted from Wikipedia.

    Thanks
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #35
    Remind us all again what you do for a living gworld? :rolleyes:

    Starts with a p, ends with a p, has four letters, and doesn't rhyme with webmaster. :cool:
     
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    #36
    Hi, do you have any quotes or sources that Muhammed molested, or even had sex with this girl?

    thanks....im waiting.
     
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    #37
    You've never ran into this website before?
     
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    #38
    No, I haven't, why would i be on that site? Thanks for not answering my question though.

    And for the record you would be extremely gullable to take in everything on that site, i already know everything is lies on it from the absolute rubbish that they have on the Khomeini page
     
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    #39
    I'm glad to see you were open-minded enough to spend 14 seconds examining the website. That's actually longer than I would spend with links you provide.

    In any event, there are plenty of websites that make very explicit claims about the marriage Mohammed and Aisha. I take it your argument is that people are just making it all up?
     
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    #40
    Still waiting for a source, because I know for a fact what Will said was pure libel.
     
    sweetsara, Apr 23, 2008 IP