Why Israel should keep provide Gaza fuel?

i did not want to do research
first occupied have the right to resist here is something

notice the word affirm which means that it is already a rule.

second they want fuel but they want you to leave their land more.
your time would be better spent trying to find a solution that allows you to live in peace {with your neighbors} than looking for reasons to continue your conflict.



@dave thank you for making the step. i never said it is going to be easy. just look at what i had to take

 

The West decided their side, when they gave what they do not own to whom does not deserve, I m not happy when somebody try to spread that image that Arabs are violent and do not want peace, by calling only one side to stop violence even though that side is not the one who started violence, and demand Palestinians to drop the armed struggle option if they want peace ignoring the fact that it was the last option they took not the first.

 

i have been equally critical of the Israeli sides and have been accused of being a terrorist supporter.
you are one of the few Palestinians that i had a conversation here so you are hearing it for the first time.
i think there exist a solution that you guys {palestanians and israelis} can live together. i think both people deserve better than what they got and they can be friends.
the economical benefit of such peace would make both people rich and prosperous. but you guys like to argue and that is all you do.
you do no not have to lose the right to have an armed strugle. you should choose to use non violent struggle because it is a better choice for you

 

so the problem is in the uniforms? Israeli wearing a uniform can kill Palestinians even if they were civilians, or even women and children, but a Palestinian wearing a mask to prevent being identified by IOF is not a man even if he was defending his people?

 

I can say the same about you, or others, in fact, I m ignoring many posts that have arguing nature, not that they are true, but its really useless to talk to somebody who still thinks Arabs attacked Israel first when there was no Israel before 1948.

I appreciate your noble goal, for peace, and I support voices like yours, its good to hear them from there when we were used to hear the same stereotypes, look at the positive side, we talked, and I m sure somebody, somewhere, learned at least 1 new thing.

even though that maybe I m the only Palestinian here but most of your posts were directed to me in and Palestinians in general saying that Palestinians should stop violence, go little back there are many Israelis here and you could not tell them they should stop their aggression, or settlements building.

But really it is not that simple, and I do not think we will be able to find a solution to such conflict here, I do not even expect one person to agree with me, I hope just people will read the past events and think, and watch the current and future events with open mind, that can accept the other and not only open it as a dumpster for propagandas sources.

 

i have been here for a while and i have engaged some of the most adamant anti palestanian people on dp
i think i have a solution for most of the elements of your conflict. i am trying to find out if these solutions are acceptable to palestanian people [kind of my own peace plan}
so you became my experiment oh well you volunteered by posting
the first element was for israel to transfer the mosque to arab countries. this way one of the sticking point would be removed from the conflict.

 

Imad:

I will say, with respect, that Pizzaman is the one person here who continuously argues for peace.

I am for the protection of Israel. You are for the protection of the Palestinians. I do respect Pizzaman's continuous efforts to promote peace.

The probable steps toward peace are when both parties take a step backward from the most war like attitudes and put peace as the first priority.

While I am for Israel, I do not claim it is a perfect country. Its first priority is its defense. In doing that it can't help but strike at Palestinians. I acknowledge that is similar from the Palestinian side.

The most aggressive part of Israel is the fundamentalist side that wants to populate as much of the West Bank as possible. Of interest this is a side with few weapons or no weapons. But they have a strong enough position within the politics of the nation that they have a certain sway over politicians. Still that sway was not enough to keep the country of Israel from forcing some of them out of Gaza. For Israeli's that was one of the most painful things they did....setting out Israeli's against Israeli's.

To quiet the voice of the Israeli fundamentalists peace would require that the fundamentalist side of the Palestinians be similarly quieted. That would mean that Hamas would have to be quieted or disarmed or agree to a very strong willingness not to fight.

I believe there would have to be VERY Powerful independant armed forces available to act like an independant police that would enforce non fighting.

(I doubt there is a force like that in the world from other nations willing and able to take those steps)

Both the Israeli's and Palestinians would need to stop arguing about who shot first and who is at fault. Both sides would need to value peace more.

I believe the Israeli's would give up land if this was possible, probable, and could be enforced.

Maybe if Pizzaman was in charge.....and had the police power to enforce things it would work.

 

Israel wouldn't need to defend itself if it didn't attack

 

I speak only on behalf of myself, but I think there are many Palestinians who share the same thinking, I can almost guarantee that violence would stop if this happened, but really, they do not want to do so, we Palestinians and Arabs from past experience must be careful, and weird things like what they suggested before and been refused "Palestinians own what on Earth (regarding the mosque), Israelis own what underneath Earth, and what is above Earth is for God" is not a solution, as it gives them a way to dig and destroy foundations then later say "oops, it collapsed " so what was on Earth now became under under Earth so we can build our so-called temple.

so, yeah its important point that will be removed, but if they were willing to transfer the mosque to Arabs, or even to international supervision, they are not.

 

thanks i hope to have a peace that would have about 65% support on both side, maybe even better than that . this way there won't be a need for a big army.

 

well maybe they can agree with no digging the point is that there might be a solution. everything has a solution. not a perfect result but acceptable.
we need to get to the can do mode. this should be done like a business transaction. lets make a deal
remember that the palestanians and israelis have to live next to each other for the rest of time the only choice is in peace or at war

 

Nah, this is not racist remark at all.

I would like to see source where did you get that. When and where anyone fired rockets from school. Any source will be fine. Thank you.

 

I know! It is rediculous to think this type of word is coming from a grown man.

 

A culture isn't a race.

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn’t true.

Kitman - Lying by omission.

 

So it is ok to say that lying is norm for some cultures? You don't see anything wrong in that statement? What if someone said that about Jewish or American culture? Would you mind than?

 

Do you consider Taqiyya and Kitman lying?

 

Who are they?!?
Sorry but why I should care about two persons?!? And what that have with someone saying that lying is a norm in someone's culture?!?
Why do you always avoid to answer straight question?
Are you unable to or you want to keep what you really think for yourself?

 

You can do some research on Google. Here's a link

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Taqiyya+and+Kitman+&btnG=Search

 

Gaza isn't under occupation! stop lie!
so my question is still valid.

 

I guess you are not interested in nothing else than spread your hate. That's why you simply don't want to answer question I've asked.