If what I see is going on now. Registrars are just grabbing every expired domain now. Every one. And then they use the 5 days to try to sell it. Then they let it drop. This is so unethical and contrary to why the 5 day period was put in. If they have to get rid of the 5 day period to stop these scum then they should do it. I watched a chinese company grab 200 domains. You can put in kshgth402tlc.com and they grab it. I even got an email on if I wanted to buy one. 5 days letter is was available again. So after all the threats of removing the 5 day , what do these scumbags so. They now start in on the expired domains. Unbelievable.
Hello svfox Logic here and I truly side with your fustration about this 5 day release crap. Been buying names for over 10 years have 4k + and how we deal with this is to only buy what we want have never returned a name including mis-spelled accidents. We read that I-CANN wants to remove this 5 day grace period stuff. Some the respected major action drop places we bid our names out of do refuse to allow the 5 day return deal. What we do when we use our own domain name buying site for those names that we do not have to bid on once we look it up we buyit right there and now so those are never reflected. Anyway that is how we handle this item and it is nice to meet you svfox. Logic...
Nice to meet you to. The 5 day period is great for accidents and trademark issues. But for these groups to hyjack the rule and pervert it to this extent is unacceptable. There is no way they can claim accidents for this many domains. So ICANN has to remove it to stop it. It is to out of control now and ruining the industry.
I think sites like snapnames and pool.com take the piss. I mean who are they to have an advantage over domains like that? When a domain drops everyone should have the change to register it. In a way they have created a monopoly this way making it impossible for people without much cash to get any sort of good domains.
Digital Point is the only forum that lets you talk openly. I mean you can say stuff that needs to be said without getting banned. Say anything on namepros and you are banned. HeartCutDiamondRing.com is available for anyone who likes 4 word domains.
Every single expired domain was grabbed again today. There are around 8000 and all have been grabbed. i am so glad to see ICANN who complained for years they were the only one who could manage .com completely limp and lame. Freaking liars can't manage an empty bag.
Not really to remove the 5-day/120 hour add grace period, but to make their fee nonrefundable. Currently they refund registrars' $0.20 registration fee for that period, but they're now looking to limit it under as specific circumstance as they can possibly define. Valid reasons for the add/grace are to correct mistakes and avoid chargeback or so. But like most if not anything else in life, that can also be abused as it's been demonstrated. I for one don't envy ICANN's position of being demanded to resolve this quick, especially when different and even conflicting interests are involved.
At this point I don't know what action unless a drastic action can stop this. I knew this would happen when they let everyone be a registrar. When there was just a few this problem didn't occur. ICANN has to do something fast as they are losing credibility and they are being made to look like a monkey and a fool. If the people at ICANN just want a paycheck they need to find a new job.
I am a noob in some aspects but how can one find out how many domains are expiring today/next week/etc?
I think it's not so hard to be fixed (if there is a good will to fix it). The only reason to have this 5-day grace period is to correct eventual mistakes. So, simply the grace period should be bound only with fixing mistakes. If somebody use the right to drop a domain a new one should be registered instead (mandatory) and this right should be permitted only once per domain.
If ICANN(T) does not refund their 20 cents it would stop the "tasting" of every single .com name that drops, as happens now. But Snapnames and Pool would simply pick over the pending expiration lists and focus on only those names that they would be sure will sell. So we still would not have a chance for the good names, only a little better chance at the junk. Of course, that is until Verisign begins to auction them. It is like Wikipedia. -- you just cannot win in a rigged system.
i grabbed one expired domain just one day after it expired. dunno about others but i guess i was lucky enough to get it. plus the domain was also very good. i am hoping to get some good amount by it
The expired domains arena is now more and more like a big players' playground that exclude nearly all the small players or genuine buyers of domains. Hope that Icann would come out with some fairer systems to replace this.
Yup. Bear in mind, folks, that registrars are not required to offer domain registration services to end users like you and me. Additionally, trying to get ICANN to add more restrictions towards registrars can result in them passing those to all of us as well. Try to be careful what you wish for.
I have only had to return one name and that was with Godaddy a month ago, it was good I could take it back as I didn't mean to register it. It was a name I had on a list of about 10 .info's I was buying for .99c each but just before checkout I had somehow added one of the names on my list but as a dot com. I didn't want it and was glad it was easy to send it back. I also dislike these companies that are abusing the system but they are allowed to so we really should be pointing the finger to who is making the rules.
Godaddy is not the problem when it comes to expired domains. Its the little hosebag registrars that are abusing the good will of the rules. I think icannt should stop refunding the 25 cents. Or like mentioned above give them 1 domain credit and that domain has a no refund requirement since its a substition.