Why Israel should keep provide Gaza fuel?

A terrorist organization only in the eyes of Israels friends. Israels time is soon running out....

If i created a organization 60 years ago in objective of destroying the Nazi regieme would i be called a terrorist?

 

Hamas terrorists are biting the hand that feeds them. Yesterday, Hamas terrorists attacked the Kerem Shalom border crossing with Israel. Kerem Shalom is one of the remaining supply routes for the Gaza Strip.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080419...inians_gaza;_ylt=An_6IeRbtaFnhjw9VfOa0cgLewgF

 

Why should Gaza have to rely on Israel for resources?

 

palestanians and israelis are in negotiations now. i propose they stop bickering over the past and try to solve their issues creativity.
it is a chicken and egg situation because you can not reach consensus so it is a waste of time
if you want to reach peace you have to negotiate and if you want the negotiations to succeed they have to pass this chicken and egg situation.both side are very comfortable to get involve in bickering and uncomfortable telling their people the truth.

 

the solution is in ending the occupation, Palestinians went to negotiations, they even admitted Israel even though it was established by terrorist gangs on stolen Palestinians lands, in return they got an admitting in PLO, so what you are asking for happened already like 17 years ago,

the problem is in the final negotiations not in getting the Palestinians or the Arabs to the negotiation table, Israel do not want to withdraw and if they before spoke about a withdrawal, they wanted to keep their nasty settlements cutting Palestinian lands in parts,

the other side of the problem is USA, its not a just partner in the peace process, and they want a role just to keep supporting one side which is Israel, and to cover their crimes, and stop UN resolutions related to the Palestinian cause by using VETO.

Israel is not showing any sign that they are willing to withdraw, they are building more new settlements and expanding the old ones, even people in Israel are now more convinced that their Government does not want peace:

source: haaretz - Israel doesn't want peace

 

The population of Gaza has grown from 320,000 in 1947 to 1.8 million with a population growth rate of around 5.5% with fertility rate at 7.74 children born/woman. No wonder that they can't feed themselves.

 

You simply don't get it... Can you show me any source that says that Israel was or is ready to make fair peace deal with Palestinians? If they are not ready to do that (and history shows exactly that) what's the point of negotiations?
If you and me have dispute over some piece of land and I keep building on that land what I am saying by doing that? That I am ready to give you that land or that I am planning to keep it forever?

 

i get it. it is you that lies to yourself.
palestanians have no chance of winning militarily.
palestanians have no chance of changing public opinion in US or Europe without a complete cessation of violence.
people constantly talk about south africa and fail to see the solution.if you look at history you will see people like Dr King Gandi and Mandella you will see the best chance for palestanians

 

i feel this is a very ugly thought to object to people having babies. objecting to life.
have you look at a mirror lately.

 

I never said that Palestinians have chance of winning militarily. It is you that lies to yourself. Palestinians have no chance to get fair peace deal without violence. Without their violence for last 40+ years there wouldn't be any Israeli-Palestinian conflict to talk about in first place.
Israel had a chance to make a deal with PLO but instead of that they helped Hamas to grow. Divide and rule.
I'll ask you again: can you show any source, anything at all that Palestinians can get fair peace deal without fighting (and by that I don't mean terrorist attacks on civilians. We'll see what will be in 2-3 years in West Bank if they don't reach peace and I doubt that they will)?

Unfortunetly some people see in other people just objects or numbers. Bogart is one of those guys.

 

you can not speculate about past if there was no violence maybe they would have been living in harmony now.
regardless of if israel is ready or not violence is counter productive to making life better for palestanians. non violence is the best way for the weaker party.history shows us that non violent resistance works better.

 

I am not sure when the history of this conflict starts for some, if there was no violence, then it was true that "a land without people for a people without land" as if Palestine fall from the moon, and as if there was not half million Palestinians living there,

I did not hear the British saying India was without people, so lets take over it, besides, Gandhi led a non-violent movement but there were also violence movements against the British, the type of the conflict is not the same to make comparisons, the righteous comparison Gandhi himself talked about it regarding the Palestinian/Israeli conflict when he said:

and..

as for Mandela:

sorry, but all Palestinians Mandela's and Gandhi's been either assassinated, or put in Jail, Israel left no other choice for Palestinians except to fight back, they can't win militarily right now this is true, but Israel will never have security when Palestinians do not have it because of the cruel occupation, and the Israeli terrorism, what will end this, and bring peace, is full withdrawal from all lands occupied in 1967, under the supervision of unbiased international force to monitor both sides, specially in the first years after the withdrawal,

this is not possible while there is no serious will from the international community to end the conflict, as we have seen in other parts in the world like in Kosovo and Kuwait.

 

The Palestinians having millions of descendants does not give them a right to Israeli land.

The 1948 UN Partition Plan gave the Palestinians a state. What has 60 years of violence achieved for the Palestians.

 

You said something completly diferent with your statment that they starve because they have too many children.

The 1948 UN Partition Plan didn't gave the Palestininas nothing at all. With that plan Jews would get their state with almost Palestinian majority. Can you imagine Jewish state with Palestinian majority? I can't and than you know who wanted wars to clean a bit that area...

60 years of violence archived one thing: they don't want to let Israelis to live peacefuly on stolen land.

 

I agree with you. That is why they were ethnically cleansed, and forcefully driven from their homes,farms and villages. Hundreds of villages have disappeared into the realms of history, and their bibical names have disappeared fromt he face of earth.

Israelis never wanted peace. All they wanted was their Greater Israel, to fulfill the bibical prophesy so that the saviour can come to redeem them. In order to succeed, they murdered countless innocent men, women and children.

The only way to achieve peace is to be fair and just, not like the US has been throughout israels existence, completely blind and one-sided. It has encouraged israel to commit more crimes against humanity without fear of the international community.

 

we didn't steel the land! stop lie! we agreed to the partition plan, although this plane was very bad for us. the Arabs started the war.
and those cowards were 7 countries against 1 country and they lost.

 

Israeli using Palestinian Kids as Human Shields video footage from the BBC

Not even the Nazis done this...

 

And your comment was: fuck 'em, they have too many kids!

And I tought that they got in mess because of ethnic cleansing and langrab did by zionist! Silly me.

I admire Palestinians for not giving up and fighting for their freedom so long.
Is there any limit in years how much you should fight for your freedom? I guess in your head there is.

 

The Nazis murdered the kids. idiot.
and the Palestinians firing rockets from school and hospitals.. they take a lot as human shield.
and, everything that you don't have what to say, you are just posting something exception that happened.
the topic is:
why do we need to risk our life, by providing them fuel? does it make sense for you?!