Why Israel should keep provide Gaza fuel?

ok thank you.
that is a part of pizzaman plan i just didn't know how a palestanian would feel
i hope for you guys to have peace

 

You sound like you do some charity work for Gazans... Like you don't get cash for every single thing you send to Gaza.
Can you tells us who is biggest buyers of Israeli goods?

Please read up some history books before posting anything like this. Thanks.

 

Like I said, the manipulations and blames were not tarried.

Look people:
Every time you don't have what to say yo are repeating: "Zionists, racists, poor Palestinians".

The topic is:
2 civilians were murdered by the Palestinians in time they worked for providing for them fuel. this is acceptable?!?!! it's like they want us to stop the fuel supply. i think that that's what they want for international on Israel.

Another terror attack, now on cargo crossing terminal:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3533573,00.html
people that work for supply the Palestinians food, risking their life... amazing.

"The Kerem Shalom crossing is a vital cargo artery, through which dozens of trucks transporting goods into Gaza pass every day."

 

Imad:

Israel has 2 existing peace pacts with Arab nations. They have been in existance for a long time. During those long periods and with plenty of fighting between Israel and whichever groups of Arabs/Palestinians/fundamentalists/Iraqi-Syrian puppet groups neither Israel or the 2 nations with peace pacts have taken a single shot at one another.

A peace pact between Israel and Jordan was written in 1994. Israel returned land to Jordan.

Far longer, a peace pact between Egypt and Israel was written in 1979. Israel returned land to Egypt.

Currently and for years during these two peace pacts Muslim/Arab nations/Islamic media/even the 2 Arab nations with the peace pacts have not publicized this reality.

The radical element of Islam does not want this realism articulated or broadcast.

If Palestinians want peace it would be easy to do so and, as has happened in the past they would receive land.

The radical/fundamentalist element of Islam will neither face this truth or broadcast it to the population.

They like the power, the guns, the control, etc.

I don't think they give a rat's @ss about the people they supposedly represent.

 

100% correct

 

While the peace agreements between Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Jordan were good steps towards peace, they are incomplete, peace between the people does not really exist and there were and still strong oppositions for these agreement in both Egypt and Jordan for the reason that they should be a part for a complete solution to the Arab/Israeli conflict,

being in non-democratic countries, people in Egypt and Jordan were not able to stop these agreements from taking place, but they were able to refuse normalization in relations between them and Israel, which you can see in private sections, leaving these agreements to be just peace between the Governments.

this does not mean people of Jordan and Egypt do not want peace, they see the big picture and believe without a solution to the core problem then there won't be real peace in the region, this is why you do not see many people of both countries speaking about peace between them and Israel, their brotherhood as Arabs and Muslims with the Palestinians are much stronger than their own nationalities in my opinion, you can see that everytime Israel commit a massacre in Palestine, and in 2006 war in Leabanon, people in both countries were demanding their Governments to close Israeli embassies,

Prince Hassan of Jordan, warned from the spread of violence early, in 2004:

source

 

And everytime a Palestinian commits a massacre. Every time a rocket is launched at Israel. And everytime a war has been started against Israel.

 

Last 40 years of Israeli occupation tells us something different then your claim. Israel wouldn't build all those settlements in West Bank if he planned or had will to return that land to Palestinians. Every single action from Israel in past 40 years showed that they are planning to keep as much as possible of West Bank in their hand. They didn't wanted to make peace with Arafat and PLO so now they got Hamas to deal with and, I have no doubt about that, in coming years they will get more groups even more radical than Hamas.
You don't want to end occupation in peace process? Fine, then we will fight.

 

What about Israel killing over 100 innocent civillians on Libiyan airlines flight 114 by shooting it down?

 

1. i don't what are you talking about, bring source.
2. what the hell is the contact?!

 

worth to mention that unlike what is written on wikipedia that first Israeli-Arab hijacking was done by Palestinians, the first airplane Hijacking in the Middle East was done by Israel:

source UN Yearbook 1986

 

don't you know to read? this is the topic. so refer to this.

 

Personally I don't feel like Israel should provide fuel to their enemies. Providing your enemies with an ass-whipping is the main thing warring countries should be concerned with.

 

@imad
the only way to achive a peaceful resolution to the israeli palestanians is to negotiate. but trying to find blame and fault will get to a non resolvable impass. in my humble opinion the negotiators must bypass this and get to the meat of the issue.
also what you fail to see in the egypt and jordan is although they feel for the palestanians i do not see their people would want to start a war with israel. this is what peace is. do not make it a romantic notion that you will get all you lost back.peace is when the waring nation prefer not to kill and be killed and they will compromise. egypt and jordan ae actually a good example of how you can reach peace before reconcilation or even without it.sooner or later as the time pass and hopefully a peace agreement holds between israeli and palestanian the attitude will change. but the reality is that this change in attitude is not necessary for peace to work.


@ ohad i found this with a quick google. it might help you with what is permissible and not.
it is not easy to be occupiers and stick to the rules.

 

you are talking like its the Palestinians to be blamed for no peace?

as I said these two agreements were good but they are incomplete, no nation prefer to kill and/or get killed, you are talking as the obstacle in peace are the Arabs or Palestinians forgetting that Arabs had made an important initiative that faced refusal from the Israeli side.

Israel is running out of excuses so do not try to create excuses for them, from "no real partner" to "the time is not right" to "Arafat is a real obstacle" .... what they want is a surrendering partner not a peace partner, what they want is a Palestinian state that depend on Israel in its existence, with settlement cutting it in parts, and its borders controlled by them, can this be called a state?

until the world change its attitude and see both sides of the conflict with just eye, then I hope there will be peace, till then Palestinians can't except to resist.

 

lol i know i am on the right path because it gets objection from both side.
what i am saying is that trying to find blame is like asking which is first chicken or egg. you can ask this question till hell freezes over. no answer and nothing is resolved. both side should negotiate with the aim in finding a resolution to their differences. they should not get involved in the chicken and egg question.

 

It's not about chicken and egg. What imad wants to say, and I completly agree with him, is that Israel was never and still isn't ready to make fair peace with Palestinians. Without that there's no way to archive peace. The history of that conflict shows exactly that.

 

Not really a chicken and egg situation, every few years there is a new excuse from Israel, soon they will run out of excuses and the world will wear thin of supporting them. They were still killing civillians before Hamas existed, they were still blowing up Buses before Hamas existed and they were still building illegal settlements before Hamas existed.

 

If you see and promote this like chicken and egg question, then it is wrong

 

Gaza is under an international blockade because it is ruled by Hamas -- a terrorist organization.