Federal judge rules lone Jesus painting in Louisiana courthouse was unconstitutional

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    #41
    Yeah that's it, just keep refining your statement until it fits in with the random "facts" that you just made up.
     
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    #42
    Like you I guess.
     
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    #43
    I agree the SC should be able to determine that but they try to 'interpret' things that are not there. There are dozens of cases where they obviously rules against the Constitution and made things up to mae it legal.
     
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    #44
    Yeah that's it, Whenever you find yourself exposed as a liar just make up more stuff.
     
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    #45
    Whenever you can't debate just resort to name calling and petty insults
     
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    #46
    if you don't want to be called a liar stop telling lies. There can be no "debate" if you are just going to pull stats directly out of your ass and claim they are accurate.

    You are entitled to your own opinion, But your aren't entitled to your own version of reality.
     
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    #47
    Then actually put up a real debate and stop trying to pick at little petty things I have said. You always ignore my main point and go for some minor little thing like the religion comment which you knew I was referring to major religions and not every one of thousands of religions out there.

    Why don't you actually focus on the fact that it is Constitutional. That is the main point I have been trying to make yet you refuse to accept that and will continue to ignore that and just try to talk about religions with me.
     
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    #48
    You said jesus is represented in most religions, So a picture of him doesn't support christianity. This claim was proven false, And as a result your "point" became refuted.
     
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    #49
    You know I meant most major religions in America.

    And once again you are refusing to actually debate the main part of my point so you are just proving me right. You ignore the main part of my argument and continue to go on with some irrelevant detail that is of no makor importance to my argument.
     
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    #50
    Jesus with 'follow the laws and morals' directly is stating by a government institution that Jesus is the determining factor for our laws and morals and to follow him as such.

    Seriously you are wrecking your own argument.
     
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    #51
    So now it's most major religions in america? it started as "most religions", then "most major religions" now it's limited to most major religions in a particular country.
     
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    #52

    No its not. The text is not in quotes. It is not saying Jesus said those words. The words are just there. We all know that they are not saying to follow any biblical things. It is in a courthouse and is saying to follow laws. As simple as that. Do not try to take things out of context. It does not say that Jesus is the determining factor for anything. To get that you have to twist things way out of context.

    You are just making things up and trying to make them relate.
     
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    #53
    Is it just a coincidence that the picture is directly above the words?
     
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    #54
    Doesn't matter if it is or not. It is still not saying you must be Christian or anything. It is saying to follow laws. Simple as that.

    And again. You just don't stop.
     
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    #55
    your religion shouldn't be supported with others tax dollars

    you wouldn't be happy if there was a big Vishnu, Satan, or Praise Allah poster up in the court house
     
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    #56
    If those religions were big here then go ahead. But since everybody in America recognizes Jesus then whatever. I could care less if they wanted to put Vishnu in the court. They are allowed to by the Constitution. But since most Americans do not know who Vishnu is that picture was not chosen.

    And Praise Allah is more then fine with me as well. Allah is just another word for god so go on ahead.
     
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    #57
    Of course it matters. You said "the words are just there". I asked if it's a coincidence that a picture of jesus is directly above the words. If it's not a coincidence then there words aren't "just there". There was intent with the positioning, And the intent was to associate jesus with the words.
     
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    #58
    You again ignore the main part. It does not matter if Jesus is associated with the words because it is not telling you or endorsing any religion.

    THE POINT OF THE PICTURE IS TO TELL YOU TO FOLLOW LAWS AND TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE

    Is that really so hard to understand? That is all there is to it. Nothing else. Jesus is a common image in America known for being a good person. It is telling us to be good and to follow laws. ffs take it for what it is. Stop twisting things.
     
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    #59
    It is not taking it out of context one bit.

    An image of jesus in a court building, a government run facility, with 'follow laws' you have seriously got to be kidding me that you do not see why that is a bad thing.

    It is directly stating hey here is our god, follow his laws. It's right there in black and white.
     
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    #60
    He is more than a 'good person' he is RELIGIOUS, it is you trying to twist things to make what it is into something it's not.
     
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