British islamic school textbooks say Jews are monkeys and Christians are pigs

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  1. #1
    This must be the "respect" they keep talking about.... I wonder if "the Jews" are in some way to blame.
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    Former teacher claims ???

    Maybe he's angry that they fired him.
     
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    swaymedia Active Member

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    So have you suddenly washed away the Fact of what JEWS think about the Christians and the Muslims. Or are you jewish and you dont want to talk about that, but are trying to overide that fact by stating another religion
     
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    I have never heard about this from any other source, but I believe it is possible. Saudi government helped setup that school, and I don't believe they're well known for tolerance. Bt you can't paint all Muslims with the same brush, can you?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    He won £70,000 compensation after a tribunal ruled that they fired him for blowing the whistle on teachers at the school helping children cheat in exams. So yeah, I guess he was angry. But so what? His reason for exposing the hate doesn't justify the hate and it doesn't reduce how serious it is when a school has books that calls people monkeys and pigs.
     
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    This is shocking.
     
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    One big happy family!
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #8
    From the same article it says,
    It is always misinterpreted, isn't it? When they say that Jews are monkeys and Christians are pigs, it probably means something nice.:rolleyes: I think they are teaching this in palestinian text books as well. By the time they are an adult, they have been brainwashed that Jews are evil.
     
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    Yeah... The whole world is brainwashed... I agree...
     
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    Well since the Islamic holy text says to kill jews and christians then there is no surprise here.
     
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    Reading all this, I'm saddened to recall a Star Trek episode, from when I was a kid (dating myself, I know). Frank Gorshin and another guy on a desolate planet, in a universe-in-scope death struggle:

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    The other guy had black on the left side of his face. The two were locked in eternal hatred, because of their "difference"; so tragically ridiculous. The semitic people are, from what I can tell, the same, for all intents and purposes. Actually, we all are.
     
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    This is unacceptable, and such teachings should not be allowed, in any school anywhere,

    not trying to defend the school in the following, but I believe such news should be taken carefully, from reading different UK news sites about the topic, the report differs in much from one site to other, in stOx post, it says:

    so I understood that they have textbooks that describe Jews as monkeys, and Christians as pigs,

    on BBC site I read:

    no mention to monkeys and pigs in textbooks here, but a source who told him that they were teaching the students that the Christians were pigs.

    and repugnant, which is unacceptable too

    repugnant:

    1. distasteful, objectionable, or offensive: a repugnant smell.
    2. making opposition; averse.
    3. opposed or contrary, as in nature or character.

    on the daily mail it reads:

    it says from books too.

    and later:

    on Daily star:

    on the Sun:

    on the Times online: was the only one that included the actual passage

    here also he says:

    one of the comments there says:

    the passage is: "Those whom God has cursed and with whom he is angry, he has turned into monkeys and pigs. They worship Satan."

    I searched for it, its in Quran, verse 5:60 which says, using Yusuf Ali translation:

    so the above verse is the root of this news topic, below you will find more info:

    answer
     
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    Yes, as with nearly all news articles, they differ slightly from one to another.

    But, here the gist and meaning and the facts are clear. Yet, you still keep trying to spin it, looking more and more foolish with each explanation you post.
     
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    it took you 13 minutes to find my post, read it, and read the sources or some of them, or at least have a look at them, and rushed to post that I am a foolish without really noticing that I did not explain, I posted some more sources, and the original passage and verse that was the topic of the news, with a link at the end to a question about it made by a Jew, and an answer,

    wouldn't it be more nice if you said, for example: I appreciate researching about it, but the guy who answered was foolish with his explanation,and say why?

    and nicer if you posted the meanings and facts that are clear for you.

    try to be nice, it won't hurt you, you are an adult now :p
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    We are talking about the textbook and teachings at this school only.

    TOPIC: British islamic school textbooks say Jews are monkeys and Christians are pigs

    I have no idea why you are posting random questions and answers that do not have to do with the topic at hand. I am not trying to discuss the Koran. I am here to discuss the topic of this school and what it was teaching.
     
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    you could have simply asked me whats the link between the news topic which says: British islamic school textbooks say Jews are monkeys and Christians are pigs and the links I posted,

    ok let me tell you what is the link:

    when I first read it, I wanted to know what is exactly the text, I was reading one news site after another, trying to find the actual text, while doing so, I noticed how much different the story is from one news site to another, not slightly, some says its in textbooks, other says its being taught, but the fact there was no textbook in which its written what been quoted in the title.

    I found the passage, and wanted to see its origins, I found the origin which is verse 5:60, and I posted a link about it, in which a Jewish guy was asking about its meaning.

    thats it.
     
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    All religions teach hatred in one form or another- Seems that aethists do to -

    What are your intentions when you post are thread like this?

    http://www.moralhealth.com/blog/_archives/2008/1/13/3461995.html

    You are obviously educated and well-read, you research topics before posting, unlike some members. There is a small group here that likes to push hatred of muslims. When I see posts from certain members, I know what they will say before I even read them.

    Ignorance Breeds Hatred!
     
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    Kind of a personal question, but did you grow up in Jordan? If so, were there things like that in your textbooks? I have been told that you may find things like that in school textbooks in Egypt and Jordan as well. Maybe not that Jews are monkeys, but do you recall reading anything about Zionists? Just curious.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    There are also teachings of this in the hadiths. There was a huge topic on this back in 2006, complete with sources.

    Muslims calling Jews apes and pigs is nothing new. After all, it's written in their religious doctrine. Usually the outrage isn't over the fact that it's in the religious doctrine though. Usually the outrage is over infidels being aware of it and apologists attacking others for being aware.

    3 Year Old Girl Reciting Jews are apes and pigs

    Syrian Official: "Jews are apes and pigs"

    Egyptian Imam Sings About Annihilation of Jewish Apes/Pigs

    Islam: Jews Are the Offspring of Apes and Pigs

    Islam: Muslim Arabs "Ruled by Brothers of Apes and Pigs"!
     
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    Since they are considered as "terrorists" on the West (and Islam particularly), they can call and not only call ;) anyone as they want by definition ;)

    "In a war all methods are good" - russian saying. In this case in a war of moral and media.
     
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