I should make something clear, Rebecca, I was not joking or laughing about 9/11 and the victims when I typed this, its an act of terrorism done by man and God has nothing to do with it, I meant to joke about how people do such things in the name of God, and I did not exclude Bush when he said that God told him to go and fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, and all the tragedies resulted from killing hundreds of thousands in these two wars on both sides, I apologize if my post offended you, again I show my respect to all terrorism and wars victims, may they all rest in peace.
So why does Sheikh Haron say God has done it? What does he mean by that? There are few different interpretation for his comment. He meant one of the followings: 1. God didn't stop the human being to do this evil act for some reasons which he knew it would be good for the earth later on. 2. God didn't stop the human being to do it to wake up people who are involved with injustice to stop it. Of course God will send those innocents to heaven, people who were sacrificed for this purpose. 3. God wanted to punish human being for its sins, and to warn the mankink. God has said in holy books like the book of Jews, Christians, Muslims etc that usually sends punishment to human being. 4. God didn't stop terrorist to go ahead for 9/11 attack because wanted Bush to go to middle east and get rid of the rest of evils. 5. God didn't stop Muslims to do it because he is not happy with the injustice in American system, so those innocents will go to hevean and they will be happy for what has happened to them in the word trade center when they see how much more they get in next world (after death). There might be some other options, I don't know, you can add to the list. Maybe its better to ask Sheikh Haron what he meant by this comment.
Maybe he believes God did it? Maybe you believe that too. But there are a lot of people, including myself, that believe God had nothing to do with it.
Thanks Imad, that means alot. I'm sorry, I think I just misunderstood your post. I think we would both agree that if someone thinks G-d is telling them to go kill, it is probably not G-d speaking. I found what President Bush said, I'm glad he will be out of office soon...
Me too. I just hope the next president doesn't take his marching orders from "his God", because "his God" might not be your God or my God. In fact, I don't have a "God" and I sure hope I don't have a leader that makes believing in his "God" have anything to do with how I live my life.
I found articles too on wich Bush said he is God's warrior and God told him go and fight.. what is difference with Bush and with a person who tells god told him to do 9/11 ?
If there is not lot difference can we call Bush an extremist or a terrorist too ? Does being a president change much in this case ?
It isnt god because god isnt evil. It isnt bush cause this was something that took intricate planning
When you fire a cruise missile and killed a thousand innocent civilians, this is Presidential Powers, powers of good over evil, when others drive a plane to a building killing a thousand innocent civilians, this is terrorists. - Disclaimer : This is from Bush Dictionary, not mine.
I know you are not going to like this, but are not these actions done in the name of "God"? When did killing in the name of God become fashionable? It feels like the crusades part II.
I beg to differ, everyone can say they do whatever they are doing in the name of God. I can also say that right at this moment God ask me to post this. Whatever men say, there will be a day of Judgment when the Truth will prevails. We can't really stop such people from saying that, what we can do at most is to refute them as best as we can. Killing in the name of God existed since ancient times, the crusades and before. Fashionable? Definitely not, just that they are trying to invoke much greater powers to justify their causes.
Oh there is another option as well, maybe Sheikh Haron supporting George Bush and he meant: George Bush did it but not for evil puposes, he did it for spiritual reasons to be able to attack middle east and to protect USA, his acts were for God, so in fact God has done it, but through a human being named George.
It doesn't sound like you beg to differ, it actually sounds like we agree. Men are invoking the name of god to justify their actions. The best we can do is call it for what it is.. total BS.
We are in a rare paradigm shift, also rapid demographic shifts. All these brings about much closer interactions as never before between one country and another, one religion and another. We saw much more conflicts as we aren't prepared for such close interactions. France and its inner cities approach, Bush and his crusades doesn't help. Much damages had been caused. We can't stop the paradigm from evolving the world, what's most important is to exercise tolerance and learn about each other. I am trying to learn about Islam and hope that Muslims will also try to learn about the different religions around them. The Unknown normally leads to Fear and Fear leads to Hatred. Something which we have too much of at present. It is time we put our foot now and dispel of all those myths. Islam is not Equal Terrorism and so is Christianity and so is Atheist. The actions of a few should not be used to condemn an entire religion as a whole. Islamic is a religion of Peace, when we see a terrorist crying Allah as he bombed others, remind ourselves that there are 1 billion peaceful Muslims out there and that terrorist is one but a coward who couldn't take responsibilities for his own actions.