LLLL.net's worth it?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by e = mc², Mar 31, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hi,
    I was planning to grab a few LLLL.net. Do you think there will be any profit by investing in them? Will they fetch anywhere near what the LLLL.com's do? (Even the crappiest get $40-$50)
    Thanks,
    e = mc²
     
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  2. save

    save Active Member

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    I think they are worth investing in for good ones, don't bother with the worst ones with undesirable letters.
     
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  3. e = mc²

    e = mc² Peon

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    I just grabbed a VCVC.net (UXOL.net). How much do you think it is worth?
     
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  4. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    i would save your money and hawk it to the first person offering you more than what you paid personally.

    the 4 letter .com hype is done, prices dropped and there isn't any end user demand to sustain it.

    .nets? ha...
    ha...
    hahahaha.

    if you think 4 letter .nets have a chance at becoming some real valuable commodity i have to point out the are .nets. .nets. not .com.

    # 3-Letter .com - $6800 (+ $100 since February 1, 2008 report)
    # 3-Letter .net - $810 (+ $10 since February 1, 2008 report)

    see .com is worth roughly 10 times .net and appreciates at that rate too. for .nets to hit the $7 reg fee rate .com would have to be worth 70-100 base. then again youre at break even level. do you think this will happen in a year (if you havent been tracking 4 letter .com prices seem to have crashed down to $30ish base, making 4 letter .nets a totally worthless investment. Let's say it took a year to reach $70 (and ill with hold my hatred of this hype for now), that would be break even and under assumption we value .nets are 10% (very generous imo, often closer to 3% ish) then you would have... lost money as you would have to renew it or sell to break even, and transaction costs involved. even if they continued to double in value (4 letter .coms) a year later reached 140 base, you would still not break ahead. For 4 letter .nets to actually be profitable under these generous assumptions 4 letter .com prices would have to increase in value >100% each year.

    Here is last years stats feb 2007:
    # 3-Letter .com - $3350 (+ $100 since February 1, 2007 report)
    # 3-Letter .net - $710 (+ $10 since February 1, 2007 report)

    # 3-Letter .com - $6800 (+ $100 since February 1, 2008 report)
    # 3-Letter .net - $810 (+ $10 since February 1, 2008 report)

    We see approximately 100% increase in 3 letter .com prices.

    We see <10% increase in net prices. The numbers just don't make sense for investment.
     
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  5. ezimedia

    ezimedia Peon

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    HI

    If you can get the same domain in a .net as the .com you know sold for good money.

    Then the normal rule is the .net is worth 10% of the same .com sold value.

    I do think there is value in the .net but you need to know what to invest your money in.

    Just look at the LLL.net back in 2005 you could get them for $200-$300 and today they are going
    for $700-1k+

    So history will repeat it's self.. just make sure what you invest in will make you money.

    If you can get a good LLLL.net today reg fee for $6 and even if you have to renew it twice
    your cost would be $20-25$ and that would give you 3 years for the market value to go up.

    So you need to ask your self will the LLLL.net domain I can get today for $6 be worth more
    then $$20-$25 in 2-3 years from today..

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks
    Tom Dahne
     
    ezimedia, Apr 2, 2008 IP
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    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    of course this ignores any notion of opportunity cost. If you could invest in llll.net over 3 years and barely make a profit while other areas of the market (or even simply interest rates at a bank) are really increasing in value than in fact you're losing, despite turning a profit. By investing in them you lost the chance at making more money. It is like if it were 1995 and I could buy a lot of generic 1 word .coms or i could buy some 3 letter .coms. The 3 letters might make money but really I missed the huge boat that made millionaires.
     
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    HI

    So if I put $25 in my bank for 2-3 years would I make a profit... what 5$ or $10 if I am lucky.. but if i get a good LLLL.net and hold it for 3 years do you think I would not double that $25 in to $50... for just one domain...

    Now what if i turned that into 10 good domains or more.

    Thanks
    Tom Dahne

    Like I said you need to know what your buying...
     
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    tobycoke Well-Known Member

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    If you put that $25 into domains you would have to pay $25 each year to renew them. So after 3 years you would have spent $75 and hoped that your domain values had more than tripled.
     
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  9. kohashi

    kohashi Well-Known Member

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    im not here to say you can't make money on these, im saying I personally don't see it as a solid investment and I certainly wouldn't personally invest in it as I see areas where there is a lot more money to be made. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost to help you understand what I mean by you're losing by investing even if these make a profit.

    Bank interest rates would pretty much just hedge you against inflation, so in real terms you would probably come out even. Which is better than losing money (in real or nominal terms). Worst that happens with a bank is you lose money in real terms but not nominal terms. Investing in something very speculative like llll.net's which is built on smoke and mirrors is far more risky, and you can lose pretty much everything you invested. Of course you can always hope the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger_fool_theory works out for you.
     
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    I believe in LLLL.net's. I think they're gonna be big. We just have to wait.
     
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    Depending on how long you wait and keep up with renewals. .com and .net will always be the hottest domain names for years to come, they are becoming less and less available everyday. So to summarize, I do not think that there is immediate treasures in LLLL.net, but you never know what tomorrow might bring!

    My 2.5 cents worth!
     
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  12. Golo

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    Only Quad LLLL.net or really good ones. Getting random ones would be a waste of money.
     
    Golo, Apr 2, 2008 IP