Will islam take over the world?

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  1. MaDog

    MaDog Banned

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    #141
    i don't think that there is alcohol shops in Iran.. or alcohol in bars... they even will judge you on west apparel.
     
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  2. ThraXed

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    #142
    I was talking about Dubai, Iran is different.
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #143
    I guess the Iranian government feels that its Muslim citizens lack discipline and need the government to force their compliance with Islam.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

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    #144
    Study up on the rights women such as Mukhtar Mai, Zafran Bibi, Sufiyatu Huseini, and Touria Tiouli have "enjoyed" under Islam.

    Don't be ignorant; Don't spread lies.
     
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  5. MaDog

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    #145
    i am sorry to tell you, that you words is a lie. woman in n the most of Muslims countries can't go anywhere without a cover on her face!
     
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    #146
    The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the chance of rape, (God Forbid).

    You are the one spreading lies my friend.

    1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original
    Sinners, (ie. Eve picking from the forbidden
    tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Koran Clarifies it
    was Adam Not Eve {Qur'an 7:19-25}

    2. The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
    loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
    are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}

    3. The Bible Forbids Women from Speaking in
    church {I Corinthians 14:34-35}. The Qur'an says
    Women Can argue with the Prophet {58:1}

    4. In the Bible, divorced Women are Labeled as
    an Adulteress, while men are not {Matthew 5:31-32}. The
    Koran does Not have Biblical double standards
    { Qur'an 30:21}

    5. In The Bible, Widows and Sisters do Not
    Inherit Any Property or Wealth, Only men
    do{Numbers 27:1-11}The Koran Abolished this
    male greediness { Qur'an 4:22} and God Protects
    All.

    6. The Bible Allows Multiple Wives{I Kings 11:3}
    In The Koran, God limits the number to 4 only
    under certain situations (with the Wife's
    permission)and Prefers you Marry Only One
    Wife{ Qur'an 4:3} The Koran gives the Woman
    the Right to Choose who to Marry.

    7. "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not
    pledged to be married and rapes her and they are
    discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty
    shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he
    has violated her. He can never divorce her as long
    as he lives" {Deuteronomy 22:28-30}

    One must ask a simple question here, who is
    really punished, the man who raped the woman or
    the woman who was raped? According to the
    Bible, you have to spend the Rest of Your Life
    with the man who Raped You.

    The Prophet Muhammad Says {Volume 9, Book
    86, Number 101} Narrated by Aisha:" It is
    essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the
    marriage)".

    Would the Christian men Reading this prefer the
    Women they know to Be Christian or Muslim?

    8. The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
    Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
    chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
    below.

    9. Women were given rights to Vote less than a
    100 years ago in the (US), while the Quran (42:38) gave
    Women Voting rights almost 1,500 years ago.

    http://www.geocities.com/athens/agora/4229/women.html
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

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    #147
    Only in Islamic countries. In the civilized world, a woman baring her face is not considered justification for rape.

    In the civilized world, we do not blame the victim -- we blame the assailant.

    In Dar al Harb, women are free to dress and travel as they please -- without the threat of rape to force them into obedience.
     
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    #148
    No one is blaming the victim, it just lowers the chance of rape, rape is almost non existant in Arab countries because of this. But you ignore the other points brought up because you can't justifty living with sucha barbaric corrupted book, and assign false idols next to God.
     
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    #149
    http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rape#Rape_statistics
    http://gmu.edu/facstaff/sexual/brochures/WorldStats2005.pdf

    without the threat of rape heheh

    These West vs East., Christianity vs. Islam arguements will always fail. These happen everywhere, it's the human specie who is **cking it up, not anything else.
     
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    #150
    Here's more fun from our Muslim brothers:

    A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

    "Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet," the Imam says, according to the report. "If you don't believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain."

    The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam's position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

    "You are innocent if you are a Muslim," Choudary tells the BBC. "Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."

    Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

    "As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters," Choudary said. "I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim."​

    Video is here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4&feature=related
     
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    #151
    Should I expose another one of your lies?

    Sure here is the verse:
    You probably won't be able to understand what it says, but you don't care since you just copy and paste a bunch of lies in your attacks.
     
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    #152
    I could find a video fo a screwed up preist, would that make him represent Christians?
     
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    #153
    Heck, let's get back to talking about Mukhtar Mai, Zafran Bibi, Sufiyatu Huseini, and Touria Tiouli.

    Not just about them as people, or about their rapes, but about how Islam defended the rapists and threatened the victims with prison, torture, and execution for reporting the rapes.

    If Islam will not allow a woman to defend her rights, then she has no rights under Islam.
     
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    #154
    you right.
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    but! you know, in normal countries, like Israel, USA, woman can chose what to do... if to cover her face her not.
    In normal countries, not all the rules and laws are taking from the Koran. this is happening in the Muslims countries.
     
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    #155
    I wouldn't say he is right unless you want to be considered as ignorant or stupid as he is.

    The verses are so bent out of context and rewritten to try and fit their goal it is pitiful.
     
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    #156
    i didn't even look on what he wrote, LOL.
    but the issue is that even if it's true, in normal countries any woman can do what she wants even if in the bible it's forbidden.
     
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    #157
    I m finding it hard again to understand all what you post, you used normal country like Israel and USA, in a comparison, this means you should use on the other side a word or expression opposite to normal like "not normal"

    but instead you used Muslims countries, does that mean Muslims countries are not normal?

    and you did not give examples like when you did with normal countries, does that mean all Muslims countries are not normal?

    if so what makes them normal in your opinion?
     
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    #158
    He should have said modern.
     
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    #159
    let's see... for example:
    according to the Jewish tradition eating pork is forbidden. most of the Jews aren't eating pork. but, there is still a lot of restaurants and stores that selling pork in Israel. it is exactly the opposite in most of the Muslims countries.
     
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    #160
    Jewish is tradition or religion or race?
     
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