Think Before You Buy Sites Embedding Copyrighted Video!

visit my site. will my site legal, as i only direct visitor to a site to see movies.

 

It really depends on what you are streaming, take anime for example, some anime studios are working with sites that are streaming anime to help them make some cash on the internet. Look at crunchyroll.com.

My advice is to avoid anything american licensed. I've only got one C&D and I've been offering anime services for a while, once I removed it all I had no more problems

 

I was actualy thinking to buy a site like that, what if i would find a host in russia ? would that be safe ?

 

i did not embed the video, but direct a visitor to a foreign page with the video

 

Can someone actually name a site that has been shut down due to this? Has anyone actually owned one? Has anyone posted a take down notice they received?

For all of the people crying "the sky is falling", you'd expect to see at least one. Everyone "has a friend" or knows someone or saw someones sisters brothers friends niece that had a site that was shut down. I haven't seen a single notice posted anywhere, which I really find odd.

 

Since writing this post, there have been a numerous amount of people that have posted and private messaged me telling me their story of their video sharing site getting shut down. This type of stuff really does happen all the time. It just goes unnoticed because many sites are just taken offline with no explanation.

Like I said though, most sites won't be sued or take offline, as the majority of them just receive a DMCA take down notice asking for all copyrighted material to be taken off. As for posting these take down notices, they legally can't. Posting these types of documents can only get you in more trouble through the companies lawyers.

 

I'd like to ask some of them to post their stories here then. The personal ones, not about someone else.

 

Great post, this is something I hadn't considered before but will have to pay attention to it in the future.

 

What if I am just being an affiliate to sell these kind of product? am I violating the law? Since Clickbank authorized me to sell these product.....

 

Why would that be?

 

Sites that closed down ?

Tv Links ?

 

There are risks in any business, I'm sure most people realize the very small risk involved in this. You will not get sued, you will get a cease and desist for displaying the video first. If they don't fire off a C&D first they don't have much to stand on in court. This is speaking from experience.

Note: I am not a legal professional, however I've been in and out of courts for a variety of bs and have no problems spouting off my experiences and beliefs.

 

What if I live outside USA and I want to make a video embeded site, that is also hosted on another country? Which country should I choose? Give it just for an example and a possible shelter for those of the fellow DP members, who make their pocket money from this kind of sites, before anybody gets burned.

 

I just wanted to say thank you even though I already knew this.

mrgee, if you are in any country outside the U.S. and your site remains relatively small, you should have no problems at all. These media lawyers have better things to do than go after little guys. If your site becomes big you might consider doing what PirateBay does and host in Sweden. Though, Sweden has been complying with U.S. copyright laws recently by allow extradition on certain occasions.

 

orite put it this way if you want to scare people YOUTUBE.COM HOSTS NEW MOVIES / GOOGLE VIDEOS DOES THE SAME dailymotion cartoon episodes movies / theres loads of sites out there am sorry but these are the big fish there more important than a small site am sorry but how many of you own your own copy of some software you have on your machine. you have the same chance Torrent websites theres loads of huges ones out there and we all no ones thats are massive there still open they wouldnt be open if they was getting lawsuits do you.

 

Alright so I haven't had time to put a lot of time into digital point lately, but a recent story that was on Digg.com really made me recall this post.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080523-linking-to-movies-leads-to-4-million-in-fines.html

This article goes into detail about how the MPAA (Movie Picture Association of America) has managed to sue two, fairly small, sites that were linking to movies that the MPAA felt violated the copyrights on them. Again, these were fairly small sites just like a lot people in this thread have been talking about. Profiting (from advertising) from someone else work is considered a fairly big deal. The MPAA won lawsuits totally 2.7 million and 1.3 million dollars from each of these websites. Their crime? Contributory copyright infringement. It is the same thing I pointed out in my first post in this thread. The MPAA was also just awarded a 120 million dollar lawsuit against TorrentSpy. They aren't exactly small like the other two.

If you are to lazy to read the article, here is a excerpt from it.

To everyone in this thread that assured me that stuff like this doesn't happen... looks like it does. Remember this is just three cases out of hundreds that the MPAA has brought against sites like this.

 

so even sidereel is considered "contributory copyright infringement"?

 

I think it stays safe, because the content is user contributed and the owners do not have control over it. Also, they more like link to sites that do "contributory copyright infringement" and does not infrige it itself.

 

A lot of sites get shut down..

Take torrentspy.com for example.. I read they were sued for 100mill and a few other sites sued for 100K-2.5mill.

Basically as long as you are not profitting from the content you will not be taken down.. as they dont care as much.. but if they go to your site.. see you have like 9999 popups and 89q2378932749238 banners and zango.. Your site will be on there hit list.

But everyone should take example of warez-bb .. they dont "link" or anything to copyrighted material. Yet they are the biggest warez site in existance.. As long as you do the same as them.. you will have no issues

Little note to keep in mind - Don't mess with FOX They get angry easily.

 

Hello,

A lot of controversal opinions in this thread.

For myself, I think that you can't get sued uploading Youtubes videos on a forum for example. You are violating the copyright of the video maker and not of youtube.

These big video websites out there like Youtube, Google, Break, etc.. They have watermarked videos, so I guess it just makes them more advertisement...

Stealing and reuploading videos to your website is not the same thing as embedding.


The FBI, MPAA, GRC( canada ) all those big guys are there are mostly busy catching the little groups of hackers that hacks the movies, null the softwares and etc... They dont have much to do with seeders ( Torrent Seeders, Warez Seeders...) or even less with simple downloaders...


They have no other choice than doing this, because the "scene" (Warez Scene) is almost impossible to stop. In only one day, when a new download comes out, it is copied and redistribued over 20000 times. Thats only the first day, imagine the unstopable chain effect...

So you better aim at the top of the pyramid if you want to be able to remove the content.

Anyway, this is not straightly related to this topic.

Btw on the google vs amazon and the other website, it was about copyrighted content that was selling for money ( Nude model pics and other stuff, i saw that in the article submitted above.)

Streaming movies and tv shows is not legal as hosting warez, but few ways to "bypass"(...or only actually makes the lifetime of your illegal content longer.) the laws, exist, like offshore hosting...

Laws are always evolving and changing, nobody knows whats coming, but the war between legacy and piracy is for sure not yet endend.