Oh right, we're still at war with Vietnam and Americans have nothing but resentment for them. I keep forgetting. We dropped not one but TWO nuclear bombs on Japan and now we're friends with them as well. On top of that we locked them into concentration camps in the US. And yet the Japanese today thrive in the US and few people even know that part of history. Americans respect the Japanese. Then there was that Dresden bombing in Germany. So what horrible thing did we do to the Muslims that is so much worse than what we've done to the American Indians, Vietnamese, Germans, Japanese, etc that would make them resent us while all those countries are at peace with us and we're at peace with them? I'd really like to know. After all the "logical" thing to do is hate so why is every race of people illogical except for the Muslims?
Kalvin, to paraphrase something that Reagan once said, It's not that you are ignorant, it's just there is so much you know that isn't true. Your entire worldview seems to be constructed on a substantial lack of knowledge little historical context falsehoods masquerading as facts I realize I'm not being chummy by saying that, but it's true. I've caught you posting completely misleading statements, that can only be the result of ignorance or malice. For example, The Vietnamese did not kill 1 million Americans.
I didn't claim they did. Try reading once. iggysick said that. Not me. It's no wonder you think I don't know what I'm talking about. You've been confusing iggysick's posts for mine. Read. Comprehend. Respond. You still havn't explained what we the US did to the Muslims that is so bad that they hate us. What did the Jews do that is so bad that they hate them and refuse to forgive? Why can American Indians say "I will fight no more forever" but Muslims can't? Why do they choose bloodshed when they could chose friendship and get the same result?
I haven't seen anything about it. If it is the whole truth than no. The truth should never be banned!
I've reported you once for being racist and you were warned if you post racist comments again you will get banned. I hope this time you will be gone for good because I'm sick when I see racist comments like yours. Nah, this isn't twisted logic at all. Well, you are the one and I will come with 100 soldiers so let's see... Ummm UN gave West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza to Israel? When was that? Btw did Jews murdering civilians and used terrorism before creation of Israel? Filthy racism. And you are talking about hate... Ever heard of word hypocrisy? Turkey. Having active military instalations in some country means occuping that country?!? I think you are the one that needs education. Of course, for you it isn't honorable to fight for freedom of your country and die for it . Someone like you can't understand that. You said it yourself that you would give up if you see you can't win. That tells loads about you. And you calling yourself educated?!? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
The US policy in the Vietnam conflict was to avoid another Korean War. The US triggered Chinese involvement when McArthur drove into the North. However, the full use of force against the North Koreans ended the war in a timely manner. The US feared a repeat of the full scale fighting that occured in Korea. Their fears were founded as the Chinese have admitted that they had suffred 16,000 battle deaths and chinese troops were deployed in North Vietnam. U.S. death toll from Korean War revised downward to 36,940. The US lost less troops fighting in Korea than the approx 50,000 lost in Vietnam. Attempting to avoid causalties leads to more losses. Appeasement in the long run leads to more suffering. http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/06/04/korea.deaths/ Appeasing the terrorists by banning Fitna will not protect you from their eventual terrorist attacks.
Three quotes by machiavelli There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others. Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times.
The last line of post #116 I never said how many well killed in Vietnam. Iggy did. I just quoted his number and asked how it is that we have good relations with Vietnam but Muslims can't have good relations with Israel. A famous general from Vietnam was defended by his American counterparts. That general? The one who shot a man point blank in the head. If you havn't seen the video you've probably seen the still picture. And that is also a true statement. If Muslims would stop attacking Israel they could enjoy their holy sites along with the Jews. But, they'd rather try to take it by force. Christians can enjoy their holy sites in Israel with no trouble. Turkey has a westernized government that is also allies with the US. So your answer is "zero." What do we have in Muslim countries? Well as soon as I post racist comments let me know. Are Mexicans firing rockets into Israel? You can read in the history books why Israel was created. So if that bothers you then oh well. Maybe the Muslims should have figured out how to live in peace with Jews before a world organization, the UN, had to step in to break it up. Immediately after the creation Arab leaders called for Muslims to murder Jewish civilians. An order they are carrying out to this day. If that's racist it's not on my end. Yes this is the internet where your penis is 24 inches long. Or we just see that you have no regard for the laws of the land and will escalate violence to get your way rather than just pay me market value for my property. I have a right to kill you if you invade my property. You have no such right. Is this what moderate Islam looks like? Is it impossible for even a moderate Muslim to pay market price? Or is violence the answer for them as well? You could have solved this dispute peacefully. But you chose bloodshed. You invaded my property, I reminded you of my rights and you choose to bring an army. Why not just write a check and shake hands like a civilized person? It's not like there aren't other houses in the area. The American Indians got screwed on the Louisiana Purchase. But, being an honorable people, a deal is a deal. And now we fight no more forever. When will enough blood be shed before Muslims stop firing rockets into Israel and say they will fight no more forever. Considering they would have free access to Israel if they would stop the killing it makes zero sense that there is any blood still being spilled over there.
We did not utterly destroy Japan and yet they're one of our best allies. A couple bombs put in the right location also can wake people up enough to say "enough, let's shake hands and be done with this." For people who don't know when to quit you have to utterly destroy them by their own decision. That quote is a very bleak view of humanity.
Nothing is easy. What will it cost to indulge the Islamists? They may want Spain, France, Southern Russia and India.
Liar. Where did I said that 1,000,000 of your troops got killed in Vietnam? Did I posted this or you? And very next day after Muslims stop attacking Israel, Israel will return all land they stole... Stop being ignorant and admit that Israel still occupies Palestinian land! At this day, at this minute! How you can compare ongoing conflict with wars that are over for 30-40-50 years?!? hahahahahahahha. What an uneducated ignorant! So Turkey isn't Muslim country?!? Seriously, stop showing your ignorance and low level of education. And that's related to "occupied" Germany and Japan how? Calling Arabs "murdering assholes" isn't racism? Is Israel occuping parts of Mexico? It seems that you are the one not reading history books but I am not suprised. Israel was created because of Muslims?!? I can only laugh at that... As usual ignorant racist like you are didn't get a point but I am not suprised. If I were going to kick you out of your house I wouldn't come alone. You fucked up American Indians simply because there were a lot more of you than them. As simple as that. Read something about creation of Israel. They didn't write a check. Instead they used terrorism to get their state and take someones else land but of course, when Jews use terrorism and force it's good thing in your eyes. But of course, you turned my simple comparission in your usual babbling about Muslims. Is there any issues that you can discuss without turning it into speach against Muslims? I doubt that. Haters can't do that. Probably when Israel will stop occuping Palestinian land but according to your posts that will not happened any time soon. And I am suprised that you are still around. It's a sad day when racist like you are allowed to post here.
It's already done with. Pakistan ?. It was part of india and is now independent. I can't see why every group wants their own country.
There are more Muslims in India than are in Pakistan. And you'll witness Pakistan breaking up into 5 different parts in the next 5 years
Pakistan already broke up into bangladesh after it's separation from india. People need to learn to get along more. Learn from some of the peaceful multicultural/multireligious countries.
Yeah... I agree... Its not just the people, but their leaders, who should learn to get along. Media also plays a very important part in it. Imagine media portraying a group of people as "terrorists" all the time, 24x7, and we get an entire population who would go ahead and re-elect Bush for the second term.
I've read about some politicians saying that Kashmir should be made an independent country. Look at bangladesh. Many are suffering and living conditions of many are bad despite independence.. Just because you can have your own country, doesn't mean you should.