Zimbabwe will Mugabe stay or Regime Change?

Voting has started in Zimbabwe's general elections in which President Robert Mugabe faces the toughest challenge of his three decades in office.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/03/29/zimbabwe.election/index.html

Expecting widespread vote rigging, fraud and vote buying

Will Mugabe still be in charge ?

Comments :-

 

How does it matter? There's no OIL there...

 

He will stay....US has no reason (i.e. oil) to get him out.

 

Tell me of one dictator who has been de-dictatorised "normally".

If he has been there for three decades, surely he would know ways to stay there for three more.
Unless someone forces the issue, Mugabe stays.

 

Mugabe will stay I guess

 

So mister Ron Paul supporter . . .

Do you support US intervention or not?

I know, you are not sure. How can you be both for Ron Paul and for intervention?

You are a hypocrite. You bitch about US intervention, you bitch about US staying out. Basically, it is clear your main goal is to be a critical of the US even if it means you have no consistent view.

 

But...but... Bush wants to bring democracy to everyone in the world!

He simply stated facts. Where do you see anything about supporting or not supporting intervention?!?

 

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

Congratulations on totally flipping out over nothing.

 

He is perfectly capable of explaining himself.

But we all know the point. He is saying if there was oil the US would be there. But it begs the question. Do you or he think we should intervene as it exists now?

His post in this thread has the implication that the US should, but we are not because there is no oil. If he believes the US should not intervene, then it hardly matters if there is oil or not.

So which is it, gauharjk, do you think the US should intervene in Zimbabwe?

So which is it, guerilla, do you think the US should intervene in Zimbabwe?

As for me, I don't think the US should intervene. Although, each day I open the paper I hope to read how someone put a bullet in Mugabe's head.

 

Just as the neoconservatives have no right to put American lives on the line for their imperialistic evangelism, nor do I think it is right to spill American blood and treasure to overthrow a foreign leader. That is not in the Constitution, this Republic was not formed to be the policeman of the world, and the President and Congress have no moral right to perform that role.

I believe you should intervene if you feel that strongly. Get on a plane and go fight. It's cowardly to expect others to do your killing for you.

Btw, I read yesterday that Mossad may be involved.


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It is not my fight. If it were, I would not expect others to do it for me.

That is why I firmly believe it is for the Zimbabweans to do what they think is right. The can keep Mugabe, it is of no consequence to me personally.

My preference is that he is gone. I think the Zimbabweans would be justified in using lethal means against Mugabe. He is starving his own people. My desire to read about his death is merely as a third party.

 

gauharjk said it best, there is no oil there, it's completely worthless to Bush/Cheney and the rest of the neocon scumbags that are hell bent on ruining the world.

 

Interesting how you can take this stance on Zimbabwe, and not on Israel/Palestine. Doesn't seem very consistent to me.

 

I have not suggested support of US intervention in a conflict between Israel and Palestinians so that is consistent with my position on Zimbabwe. If you are talking about foriegn aid, we give that to many nations, the PNA and Israel included, and as you know it is not something I have issues with, although I may not agree with each countries' allocation.

There are, as to be expected, many reasons behind the various opinions I hold.

One major distinction between these issues is that I see is that many of Israel's enemies have also threatened, attacked, and killed Americans. Many of those groups have openly threatened American interests and American lives. Further, in my own estimation, many of Israel's enemies pose a threat to the United States.

The concern in Zimbabwe is mainly an internal issue where he is abusing his own people. While I think it is unjust, I do not think it has much impact on US interests.

 

Fair answer brwntown. I guess my point by asking, was that it's hard to find easy answers, and thus, not so easy to pigeon-hole someone else.

 

I agree. I am certainly guilty of just assuming someone's position based on a couple posts. Anyway, I really ended in deeper into this thread that I wanted, but I guess I started it, so I had to stick around. Anyway, I have to go spend some time with my family. Catch you all later.

 

He will remain in power, voting is rigged.

LOL!!!

 

He will stay - fortunately he is getting very old - so will eventually have to go sometime -

 

I can't understand why someone doesn't just cap his ass.

Probably can't afford a gun I guess.

 

Defying a government order, Zimbabwe's main opposition party released its election results on Sunday, claiming an early victory for their presidential candidate.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/03/30/zimbabwe.election/index.html

More trouble expected in the coming days