There IS Apartheid in Israel

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gauharjk, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #21
    Yeah temporarily....
     
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  2. MaDog

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    #22
    racist? what is racist in my things? what is racist in what i said? I am from Israel so i am racist? you are the racist! BTW, in israel there is 1.5 million that they are citizens with equal rights..
    and people who are saying that they want to destroy a country is not racists? report on them too...
     
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    #23
    ^
    You said that..
    Our relations with jordan is just gettin better.
    about egpyt - most of their ppl don't like us but yet they want peace as much as we do.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Your posts smell racisim MaDog.. I agree :)
     
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    MaDog Banned

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    #25
    Yeah sure, I am a racist. I murder people without a reason. I want to destroy another country. I have a commandment in my bible that telling me to kill anyone that isn't Jewish! I execute this commandment too! right?

    The anti-Semitism is celebrating here!
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Apartheid and racial segregation or racial oppression are not the same thing, or else there would have been apartheid in the US and would still be with the Native Indian reserves. Apartheid was a legislative form of racial segregation an oppression in which the parliament and the law was used to oppress non-whites, not just their movements.
     
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    #27
    I thought Israelis were intelligent....:confused::eek:
     
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  8. MaDog

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    #28
    you don't have what to say, so you are choosing to insult. (this is not a racism too, right?)
     
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    #29
    Israel showed so far that they are not interested in returning land they stole so Palestinians have no other means to fight them 'cept terrorism. Of course, guys like you can't understand that because you have never been forced to fight for your freedom.

    Both Jordan and Egypt sold out Palestinians and US tax payers still paying for it.

    After something like this said imho you don't need to say anything else.
     
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    #30
    No, Israelis are not a race lol, Racism is when you insult a race of people BECAUSE of their race, like you did with Arabs earlier (It is common among Israelis to be racist towards Arabs).
     
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  11. MaDog

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    #31
    We didn't stole anything. The Arabs wanted the "Six Days War" in 1967. The Arabs lost in that war, their problem! we don't to apologize that we captured areas in war that you started(indirectly)?!
     
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    #32
    The peace contracts between both Jordan and Israel and Egypt and Israel are invalid in my opinion, because both countries are non-democratic, so these contracts do not reflect the real will of the people in Jordan, and Egypt.

    Actually the majority of citizens in both countries believe that their governments are corrupted and selling their countries to the foreign companies and "strategic investors"

    so far there is no normalization in relations between these two countries and Israel, people are refusing it, a car coming from Saudi to Jordan for example can keep its Saudi plates, while cars coming from Israel to Jordan are given temporary Jordanian plates, this should tell you something.
     
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  13. MaDog

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    #33
    How come that Israeli can't just walk in Gaza(he will get kidnapped or get killed), and Palestinian can walk in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, and even live there?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #34


    You guys are a pretty good example of why there is no peace. Both of you call the peace agreements that have worked for decades as a sham. Yet, you want Israel to keep negotiating. For what?

    You wont be satisfied until there is no Israel. Well, you will have to fight for that. And you will lose. But, at least you guys are starting to be honest. You consider the successful peace deals a sham. You state that the deals are just to the Muslims can arm themselves for further battle with Israel. Yet, when Israel makes the same argument you lie and say they really want to live side by side in peace.

    You get exactly what you seek.
     
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    #35
    Hmm.... lets see i dont support the rockets and attacks but lets refrase something

    IN ISREAL A CIVILIAN IS REQUIRED TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY/ARMY. THIS MEANS THAT EVERY ISREALI CITIZEN IS A SOLDIER.
     
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    #36
    um lol when the hell was there an 'Isreal'?
    BEFORE 1948 THERE WAS NO ISREAL and still isn't. Theres an Army Of Zionists Who Live In an occupied land called 'PALESTINE' and rule it by force and Tyrany... go figuire
     
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    #37
    The Passover massacre (also known as the Netanya bombing) was a suicide bombing carried out by a Palestinian militant in the Park Hotel at Netanya

    Most of the victims were senior citizens (70+). Many of them were Holocaust survivors. The oldest victim was 90 and the youngest was 20 years old. A number of married couples were killed, as well as, a father together with his daughter. One of the victims was a Jewish tourist from Sweden who was visiting Israel for Passover.

    Victims Name Age Hometown
    Shula Abramovitch 70 Holon
    David Anichovitch 70 Netanya
    Avraham Beckerman (Sgt.-Maj.) 25 Ashdod
    Shimon Ben-Aroya 42 Netanya
    Frieda and Alter Britvich 86 and 88 Netanya
    Idit and Andre Fried Both 47 Netanya
    Miriam Gottsegen 82 Ramat Gan
    Amiram Hamami 44 Netanya
    Perla Hermele 79 Stockholm, Sweden
    Dvora and Michael Karim 73 and 78 Netanya
    Yehudit and Eliezer Korman 70 and 74 Ramat HaSharon
    Marianne Myriam Lehmann Zaoui 77 Netanya
    Lola Levkovitch 70 Jerusalem
    Sarah Levy-Hoffman 89 Tel-Aviv
    Furuk Na'imi 62 Netanya
    Eliahu Nakash 85 Tel-Aviv
    Chanah Rogan 90 Netanya
    Irit Rashel 45 Moshav Herev La'et
    Clara Rosenberger 77 Jerusalem
    Yulia Talmi 87 Tel-Aviv
    Sivan (St.-Sgt.) and Ze'ev Vider 20 and 50 Moshav Bekaot
    Eva and Ernest Weiss 75 and 80 Petah Tikva
    Anna and George Yakobovitch 76 and 78 Holon


    So, you agree that you don't really want side by side peace with Israel. You want Israel and wont be satisfied until they are all gone and the Palestinian flag is raised in its place.

    At least you guys are being honest in this thread. You have all even convinced me more that I am right in my support of Israel. They are under attack. You all claim to be moderate Muslims and yet you all say you don't want peace with Israel, you want Israel itself.

    I think I will send some money to help support the fight against the terrorist state of Palestine. Thankfully fools like Ron Paul, who were supported by Muslims on DP only because of his positions on Israel, is a joke in the United States. Anyone with a chance of winning the Presidency knows who is America's friend and who is our enemy.
     
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    #38
    I wanna have a 1 on 1 convo with you. seriously I wanna show you my point of view rather than everyone else showing you at the same time

    also if these senior citizens learned something from the holocaust it shoulda been to not opress other people... its pretty sad though they had to die.
     
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    #39
    Can you quote me where did I said anything like that? :)
    Do that or stop showing your bigotry from one post to another.
     
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    #40
    browntwn - I am your fan!

    Now I want to tell a private story:
    few years ago, when I was 10 years old, there was a suicide bombing in "Maxim" restaurant in Haifa.
    in the restaurant were babies, old people, women... my friend was there too. and he got killed with a lot more people from his family. 10 years old kid! is he a soldier too?!

    http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng/Communication/IsraelUnderAttack/attlist.htm - list of terror attacks in Israel since 2001 (not including the thousands of rockets that they are shooting at us for 7 years!)
     
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