My First $1000.00 Day On Azoogle

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  1. aj22

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    #1221
    i've never had a lead scrubbed

    but you need to be within the terms and conditions of the offer, which means that you must only advertise content available in that ringtone provider's catalog (Ask you am for it).

    but if your topic can't be related to a ringtone(s) available.... just be creative.
     
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    #1222
    AJ maybe you could better understand my question i put on bottom of page 61? I know you have an informational page and you do it your own way but honestly is the reason why your ROI isn't exactly ground breaking because your throwing in that extra step? out of say 1,000 clicks how much would you pay, how many clicks actually reach your ringtone landingi page and convert?
     
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    #1223
    not sure if i get what you're saying

    i'm pretty happy with my ROI, and i think i've laid out the numbers before...

    100 clicks -> 80 click through on cat food LP -> 10-20 click through on my ringtones LP -> 1 conversion

    1:100 at .07 is about $7 for the conversion, and getting more then double that paid out.

    so for 1000 clicks, at .07 each, i would pay $70 to make $150-160 in revenue
     
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    Ok heres my issue i dunno if you understood what i wrote since it was so much and kinda derailed at times basically its like this.

    Right now im getting 400,000 - 600,000 impressions a day with about 50-100 clicks.

    lets say i get 100 clicks - 80 will go to my ringtone landing page - and out of 80 ill get like 7 conversions. and i spend like 50$ because im spending like 40-50 cents per click but im making like 100$ out of 40-50$ spent so my ROI is the same as yours.

    BUt im paying 4x what you are. If i could get my clicks down to at least 10 cents my ROI would be like 5:1 meaning if i spent like 100$ i could get 500$ back.

    But for some reason i can't seem to get that low or its taking a long time. My landing pages seemed to keep holding me back, So I tried to do what your doing and set up an informational page. but it dint work out so well so now my next step to try would be to create a blank page put some links and videos and an article about the keyword and at the top have a link going to my ringtone landing page.

    Do you think if i do that i could reach clicks of 10 cents?
     
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    #1225
    ok i gotcha, two things could happen here:

    lower your bids gradually: .01-.02 every 12 hours or so, or until the impressions stop coming

    do nothing: your making a sick ROI as it is, 5:1, although possible, may be a bit too much for just now.

    my pick - do nothing. whatever you just did, rinse and repeat 10 more times, see if that works. looks for patterns and trends. go from there


    edit: 3 things you could do, third is:

    INCREASE your bids: get more impressions, more clicks, potentially more conversions. sound crazy??? who knows.
     
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    #1226
    Are there any tuts for noobs :p . I dunno anything about this. The only reason im reading this is I TOO WANT the piece of the pie. I do forum postings and other slave work like blog commenting, etc. Man where can i find info to go about doing it. I don't even know most of the terms used here. Any pointers?
     
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    #1227
    Do you guys keep an eye on Avg Position of Ads for Content Network?
    I heard it is good to try to be at least position 4, because most ad blocks hold 4 ads.

    Aj, seems like you would ignore it for your method, by just keeping bid below 10c and just keeping an eye on getting lots of impressions and clicks (and ROI, of course)
     
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    #1228

    man thats like modern day slavery. sorry though not all of us can get a piece of the pie :-(
     
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    #1229
    Start reading from the first post and become a regular to this section of the forum.

    Thats amazing! only because that is exactly my same ROI and conversion rate and ppc model. So all I need now is 30 adgroups like AJ ;)
     
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    #1230
    Ok, lets see if anyone can figure this out. I personaly thought the Azoogle's Dada or Thumbplay's LP looked pretty crappy compared to CPA Empire's fancy Flycells LPs. But how is it possible that Azoogle ones has a way higher EPC than the Flycells? Are people just "feelin" the Azoogle ones better? Or is it because more people are running ringtones from Azoogle?
     
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    #1231
    You'll only learn by split testing with your landing page, don't listen to what others say on things you can easily test out yourself. What works for them may not work for you and vice versa.
     
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    #1232
    lol funny you bring up cpa empire and flycell

    i just sent them 1,000 test clicks to flycell, got like 3 conversions. so.....

    1:333 vs 1:12 for me

    I'll take my 1:12



    agreed
     
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    #1233
    Save me the trouble. My last dip into the cat food stuff drop to a low 1:300 conversion with Flycell. I'm gonna give some Azoogle ringtone offers a go in my next round.
     
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    #1234
    wow! 333:1? When I see 50 clicks and no leads on my good offers I get paranoid and switch or split test my offers, assuming there might be a problem on the back end somewhere between the provider and cell phone companies.
     
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    #1235
    webgenesis said he had good results with a flycell offer.
    At 300:1, I definately would have tried another offer.

    I get bad results with "other carrier" offers so I'm split testing three right now.
     
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    #1236
    I am doing 100:1 with a FlyCell offer on Azoogle. I guess it really just depends.
     
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    #1237
    FlyCell is tested already by many and it's the crappiest converting ringtone offer on the market. If somebody feel the need to test their LP,go ahead,you will just waste your time.
    Thumbplay converts good for verizon.There is one private offer at Azoogle that works good with other carriers. And i have great one that works very well for sprint,att and tmobile,1:7-1:10,with better payout than Azoogle.
     
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    #1238
    Are you serious?
     
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    #1239
    I'm so confused..

    Yesterday, I ended up spending $48 in adwords to earn $91 in Azoogle. Pleased with those results, I decided not to change anything and just let the campaign roll. Logged in to check my stats today, and wow what a difference: $39 in adwords, $13 in azoogle.

    WTF??? That's such a ridiculous change how could I event attempt to figure out what the hell went wrong??

    just when I thought things were looking good, i'm back in the crapper. advice anyone?
     
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    #1240
    lol that sucks, Well im kinda in the same hole. although im in the green like 5$ today im coverting at like 1:30 now, maybe its the end of the month? they got all the leads they need and are starting to scrub some leads or not allow some?
     
    killafawk, Mar 26, 2008 IP
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