Never Trust Anyone!

Yeah, you shouldn't have given the money back. I was tricked too. A guy needed two psd to html. I said I will deliver the completed html within 24 hours. I sent both the html to him within 24 hours. Twice, from two different e-mail address. But he didn't respond. After another 24 hours he sent me a message on msn, saying that I was too late and that he had to do the psd to html himself.(After receiving my code, ofcourse).

It was neat trick. Now he can use my coded html and he didn't have to pay for a thing.

My advice is to look out for tricks as well. Some time client pretend to interview you, asking specific question. What actually he/she was doing is trying to figure out a solution to a particular problem he/she might be having with some code or design. In the end he or she may interview a dozens of DP member who applied for the job, in order to get what he/she wanted. In the end he/she will tell you " sorry, got some one else or not interested.".

So people also be carefull of such interview, just don't give away any complex code solution. Some one might be trying to steal your idea.

Asking for help with code's or design is one thing....but thats entirely different.

 

anamul, what you should've done is, send only a low-quality JPEG with watermark instead of PSD, and code without images This way he wouldn't bother using yours IF he really had done his so called homework..

 

Even i have expeienced such a thing and i lost around $100. what should i do against him can any one suggest me.

He is member of this forum.

Thanks

 

best thing to do is post his username here. now. today. fast.

 

Feel sorry for what happened to you.
I guess we,designers,must be more careful dealing with someone on DP.
Recieved the payment first or half in front and the other half at the end when the job is done.
And i think you shouldn't have to send the money back.If they guy threatening you,do not afraid.
It would be best if you tell us his username.And report it to mods.

 

hmm.

1st Rule: No refunds!
2nd rule: Delivery After Payment!
3rd Rule: Follow those above!

and you'll leave a good life

 

ok i think i have a right to give my side of the story dont you?
First of all we agreed on the price of £15 and she sent me the sample and i was happy with it .
I said that i wanted it for A3 size poster and that needed to be high res.
so for the work i sent her £20 an extra £5 for the work!!! She sent my the PSD and when i opend it it was a mess!!! she sent me a diff PSD file that she had to redo and the txt was all over the place.
she said she been having probs with her photoshop and her pc or something and it wasnt her fault.
Well its not my fault that her photoshop is messed up!!
I asked her to redo it and she didnt Really want to do it. It seems as soon she had the money she didnt want to know!!
Now i understand that you guys only heard one side of the story and that understandable.
She was bitching about the time it was taking to do but that want my fault i mean if someone send you a job and the text is not in line you would ask them to do it right wouldnt you?
The reason why the job took so long was the fact that she wasnt looking for mistakes before she was sending me the PSD. IN the end i wasnted happy with the job and the PSD was a mess so i asked for my money back.
would you ask for your money back if the job was a mess?
so thats my side of the story. Im abit upset that my user and real name is posted on the fourm.
As a business man im honest and pay when someone does work that is done right and in order.
In this case it wasnt.
By the way there is a DP member that iwas talking real time in msn at the time all this was happing and i showed the txt all the bitching that was gonig on,He seen the msg i was getting from her and he was telling me what she was saying was out of order!!!
Im not going to bring him into this as its not fair on him,If he want to come in and give his side also thats up to him.
Whats pissed me off is that we had a verbal agreement what the job was and what it entailed and i also paid her £5 on top of what she wanted. She didnt keep to her side of the job at all! so im waiting for the £10 that she owe's me"!!!
I am £10 down with no psd. mm i learnt that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

 

Have started talking nonsense blsht!

 

Do you want to tells us what the heck are you talking about? Cause i don't see any sense in it.

 

Well, its still your fault Taffflash..Your biggest mistake was to deal with her blindly..As a designer, I will not critic another designer's professionalism, but as a business man, YOU should have asked for her samples and portfolio. and when you had agreed with her works, you were bound to HER conditions because you asked for the job at the first place, and agreed with her credibility. When you have the PSD in your hand, it doesnt matter anymore whether you like or don't like the design. You have the designer's "soul" in your hand when you have her PSD. As a lesson for you, ask for portfolio or sample of works before dealing with the designer next time. And if you still take the risk, bear the consequences later on.

To those who face problems like this, to overcome it, follow these steps:
1. Present your portfolio and make sure the other party agrees to do business with you, keep the message safely in your inbox (or save it somewhere) for reference.
2. Make 50% payment for job taking and another 50% after job completion, set a date and tell them that if the job is not completed in that period, you will refund the money (the other party has their own rights too).
3. NEVER send a PSD until the full payment has been made.
4. ALWAYS send a JPEG/PNG preview with a WATERMARK of your name or company name. Watermark portions where critical imaging work is done, where royalty-free images are placed and where logos are placed. Visibility of the watermark maybe made at color #ffffff with opacity 20%. This way, if your image is still used without your consent, you can drag the other party to court with an evidence in your hand.
5. ALWAYS tell your customers what are your TOS and that no money back guarantee is given. Design needs lots of time and in most cases needs coding. You deserver the money for the time you spend. So having a refund policy is just a foolish thing for a designer.

These are my views and what I practise. I remember one of my customer here, who was a designer apparently, gave me a project of his to be sliced and coded. It was given to him by HIS customer and he wanted it done in ONE day. I told him my coding will take 2 days and it did. On the safe side, he told the customer about the 2 days issue, and he agreed. I completed the project in time, watermarked the sample and sent it to him. The designer paid me first so he would just take the cash from his customer. In the end, the customer refused to pay. We had no choice but to drag him to court. I gave him all of the evidences for his side proof. Watermarked images, dealing messages, print screen of IM history, and all other relevant data. I believe he won the case easily. Hate it when people step on we designer's heads.

Just my thoughts. Hope they help.

 

hahaha
This is funny
Ok it's not, but webblab is

if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. hahah

I think this topic is getting a mess

 

well, yeah it is..but at least people know what we designers have to face sometimes haha

 

You will not critic another designer's professionalism but you will critic my business skill it seems..mm that intresting.

I mean i understand that you looking out for other so called designer's but I think that this fourm should be also looking out for the buyers also!

SO please can you give the same type of advice to BUYERS Also

SO to all you buyers out there dont deal with the person that i got RIPPED off with!

SHADYLADY

ALI SADIA

Oh i have a right to slander her name as she did mine,dont I?

Also what the right thing for Ali to do was go to a mod and have them deal with it instead or bringing it out in the open where its now got messy.
But i understand that she is looking for ways to justify herself,Where is the best place to do it but on DP of course as she will get the support of designer's to make herself not feel bad knowing she is in the wrong.

AND US BUYERS lime

 

Well Taffflash, as I mentioned, what you should do (and I would if I were the buyer), make sure you see the portfolio of the designer you hire first and have proof that those works are his. Also, take sometime to look into his/her iTrader and number of posts he/she has made on the forum. Do your research since you will be spending money of yours. That's the best thing to do. I don't want to be bias here, but its just my personal judgement and anyone has their right to comment

 

Well I did do that lime and i still GOT RIPPED OFF £!0!!

 

Well I did do that lime and i still GOT RIPPED OFF £!0!!!!

 

Heya,
shit... Thast not good what you do.. You schoudnlt give him the money. That are the trciks from peoples.. They pay.. Moneyback please.. Logo he hav.. Can use.

 

I think maybe if SHADY had sent over the FONT the text would have been in line, lol.
And If TAFFLASH had specified from the get go it was an A3 poster(hi-res) shady would not have to spend four hours rebuildiing the PSD, lol.

Schoolboy/girl errors, on both sides. Both of you put it down to experience, both of you are $10 down. Leave it at that. Im sure you both dont want to be dragged through the mud anymore.

And I dont eat peanuts, its strictly cashews and pistachios for this monkey

 

Well pistachio monkey (haha..that's cute)..Im a cashew and almond monkey Well, to correct you in one point, the FONT does not have any effect on the PSD. If the user does not have the font, it will remain as it is, until the user edits it..I have tested this..My friend made a template with Helvetica font (which I didnt have) and the font remained there after sending over. But it just cant be used in vector mode. When I tried to edit the font, it asked for a font substitution and replaced with Arial instead.. So, basically, the design was what matter at all..

I agree with the point you made there, both are now equal with £10 now..So, I guess case should be resolved nicely..What I would suggest is, shady should make one last revision for teffflash at no cost. And that Teffflash, as to forgive her can pay back the £10 (without the extra £5)..Fair enough? What do you guys think?

freebanner, nice portfolio there.. Love your designs..

 

Free you are jumping to conclutions!!! i did specified from the get go it was an A3 poster(hi-res)!!!!
In fact the proof is in the contest cat!!
And she messed it up the PSD and she had to remake it and when she did it was a mess!!!!
and she started to bitch that it was her mistake that she made FULL stop!!
It was the case of she had the money and didnt want to know!!!
no she is not down £10 im the one that been ripped off and she got the balls to say post all the lies!!!