Hi, I found this profitable product but its sale pitch page looks too wordy and scammy. So I was wondering if its okay to make my landing page as the sales page and then have people go to the order page directly from my landing page while skipping the original sales page? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
It's advisable to ask the vendor if they allow this. Some vendors may not like this because their pitch page has to conform to clickbank rules, and the return policy and such must be presented right. If it were a "Free-For-All", I imagine refunds on the vendor will go up and may put his/her program in jeopardy. I have heard of cases where the vendor reported affiliates to clickbank and the affiliates account got closed. As a vendor myself, I would appreciate if an affiliate asked first and gave me an opportunity to see the sales page.
Well said FloodRod. Us vendors need to put warranty information, download information, CB disclaimers, contact info etc. if you bypass any or all of these, you could screw me It's not impossible though - in fact it's rather easy. Without letting the vendor know is not admirable but if you have your own site/host/landing page you can easily cookie stuff the aff link into your lander to bypass their pitch. Some people cookie stuff hundreds of products on a page w/i-frames and 1pxl pushes so if that computer buys any of those cookied products in 60 days without other aff interruption they would get the commish. It's GH imo, as long as you have permission and or even help from the vendor i think it should be allowed - however a sinlgle cookie only to that product. Not sure how detailed the CB TOS go about this but i do see this happen. Cheers, NC.
It's a good method but the cookie won't be set into your visitors so if you visitor accidentally close the page. Then open the browser again then go directly to the merchant page then you won't get pay. This happens lots of the time because buyers need time to re-consider people they go out there and purchase the product 90% of the time they will bookmark the merchant land page instead of your since they will buy product directly from there. Another thing is you can't keep track of your TID if you use direct order page method.
I don't think you understand the point of cookie stuffing. You set the cookie the moment the visitor gets to your landing page - they can close the page and return to the main vendors site up to 60 days later and still have the cookie (of course it depends on how the user has their cookie clearing/resetting, some clear cookies on close, others never clear cookies because of important site details/banking/etc. so they purposely do not clear them)... Actually, you can also use the TID feature and it would not work any different, that info is sent when to cookie is set. N.
I would love to do this myself for most products as a simple description of a product will typically work better than the landing pages most of the publishers I've seen put up. I would definitely contact clickbank and the vendor first though.
I don't think you understand what the post starter said. He said he will to direct the visitor direct to order page. Are you freaking kidding me? How is that possible if the visitor is not even clicking on your hoplink yet. o_0
Not going to divulge exactly how - i gave enough clues above. 1. visitor clicks on your adwords ad or banner somewhere or article link or blog etc. 2. they get to your landing page that you made and cookie stuffed. 3. they click your 'buy now' button on your landing page, they bypass the vendor page and buy the product/service. 4. they never see the vendor page. - i understand full well what the poster is trying to do and there are a few other ways to do this as well, however this is the most straight forward, all above statements are correct and cohesive - though again this tactic is not admirable unless you have full co-operation from the vendor or run the risk of being reported. NC.
Thank you Rick. @NCMedia, I believe the thread starter never mention anything about black hat technique of cookie stuffing into people browser, am I right?
**Cheers, I'm not disagreeing with you or debating just clarifying. Also - I do not endorse blackhat techniques - though will say that cookie stuffing started out as whitehat and a way to track, then it moved to grey, then black due to multiple cookies, automators, image to htaccess afflink hiding etc. I'm sorry if i'm just exposing readily available public information however if the vendor has co-operation with the affiliate there is nothing wrong with creating their own customized campaign within TOS - this goes for all networks, and many have their own specific rules. Having said all that, let me enlighten you a little on what is possible these days with this tactic. * Forum affiliate stuffers * Youtube cookie stuffers * image cookie stuffers * timed exit stuffers/enter and disappear stuffers * Software/toolbar stuffers * Email stuffers * the list goes on stuffers... ***And no, you don't need a cloaker, that serves no purpose here - unless to cloak the actual payment link (actually yes that is wise, but not a necessity in order for the process/tracking to function). Why am i exposing it? Think like a vendor, even though there are methods one can always hide, the only trail is ones money trail - affiliates should CHECK their vendors pages carefully before promoting them including optins and ALL website pages/google results/alexa look ups etc. (not too common but if you are big spender or serious aff you probably already filter your endorsements well, add these to your potential leak list). Back to the OP - Contact your vendor and see what h/she has to say about helping you customize your campaign or landing page, if they are willing they might host the page for you and monitor your traffic to ensure clean monetization... NC.