Yesha rabbinical council chief: Don't rent houses to Arabs

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    Yesha rabbinical council chief: Don't rent houses to Arabs

    Makes you go hummmmmmmmmm...
     
    iggysick, Mar 19, 2008 IP
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I think this is a bit radical, renting of house should be based on supply and demand, who can afford the best prices win, not on ethnic groups.
     
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    Not really when one society imprisons another society in Bantustans, and oppresses them, while the world looks and turns the other way.

    What can you say of that? Just read how this sounds...
    "Recently, several Imams led by Imam Lior have issued a precedent setting fatwa ruling that Palestine must shoot civilian populations in areas from whence attacks on Palestinian communities originate."

    Wouldn't that sound racist, illegal, anti-semetic, and terrorism? But when israel does the same thing, it is ignored, and israel is given a free pass. :(
     
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    The guy is a rabbi and he claims that everything he preaches coming from his holly book. Goole his name and you'll see what else his holly book says according to his words and preaching. Pretty disturbing.
     
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    This particular rabbi is representative of the extreme right wing religeous element within Israel. He is neither representative of the nation or the majority.

    For instance he supported the decision of the yeshiva that was recently bombed by a terrorist and which multiple deaths occurred that didn't allow Olmert to visit the school.

    He also supported an effort to keep the Israeli army from originally removing Israeli/Jewish settlers from Gaza.

    (hm maybe if the Israeli's hadn't removed settlers and hadn't given Gaza to the Palestinians there wouldn't be this current situation in Gaza--but that is left to another discussion)

    he is not representative of the nation or the people.

    He is representative of the extremist right wing.

    IMHO fundamentalist religeous groups are the causes of problems again and again.

    Fundamentalist Muslims want to kill Israelis. Fundamentalist Jews in Israel want to kill Palestinians. Get rid of a lot of fundamentalists and maybe people could live in peace.
     
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    Is there a verse on not renting houses to Arabs? :)

     
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    For some reason, moderate people are not attracted to political power.

    And that is probably why Fundamentalists on all sides, in many places are in charge.
     
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    there is some times to make this change. moderates have to realize that there might be a genuine chance for peace and prosperity and some people are not willing to even have a dialog about it.
    this is a group i found on youtube i do not know how they are doing now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34bVcLMrcRs&feature=user
     
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    Dunno but this rabbi claims something like that: "forbidden by Jewish law to employ Arabs or rent homes to them"
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    These are the people who are directly responsible for the impasse between the Jews and Arabs. If they are more accomodating to each other I do not see any Palestinian and Israel conflict, there is enough land and resources for all.

     
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    The Israelis’ endless fears of being wiped out - despite the fact that they have the largest, best equipped military in the Middle East, despite the fact that they have hundreds of nuclear weapons, despite the fact the U.S. has vowed to use its own military and WMD to defend the Jewish state against any such eventuality - are the most hackneyed, maudlin and propagandistic load of BS that has ever walked onto the stage of world politics. The Israelis have distinguished themselves with continual violations of everything with which they pretend to clothe themselves as being morally better than the rest of us. Example, a minister of the current Israeli government threatens to inflict a Holocaust on the Palestinians in retaliation for scattered rocket and mortar attacks that usually do not even inflict casualties. With this statement alone, the Israelis have convicted themselves of intent to commit genocide. Their brutality and hypocrisy stink to heaven and offend the sensibilities of the world.
     
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    Sure moderates are attracted to power. But the situations vary nation to nation.

    Egypt: The govt. nationalist suppresses fundamentalists and keeps the state supreme.
    Iran: The fundamentalists control and suppress the moderates.

    Saudia Arabia: A fundamentalist govt. that suppresses different fundamentalists ie Al-Queda.

    Israel: A democracy with a significant but minority fundamentalist political wing. The fundamentalists normally align with the right wing militaristic group and threaten to disrupt the govt. when it moves off their agenda. It seems powerful enough to continue to support some growth of settlements but was not powerful enough at the time to keep Israel from removing settlers in Gaza.

    Just a few examples, but I'd suggest that in the non-democratic nations of the middle east the power of the gun is more powerful and dominant than everything else, country by country.
     
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    i agree on your assasment of the fundementalists and their efforts.
    it is very hard for moderates to counter act the fundementalists in both iran and israel . they achive their goals by diffrent means, but they achive it anyway.
    the real problem would be if egypt or saudi arabia or any of the gulf states fall to fundementalists.
    lets hope that moderates in israel and palestanians come to an agreement and i think such agreement will do a lot in overcoming fundementalists power in ME
    i am not recommending a particular solution at all, just that it is a good time to look at a way to reach peace and negotiate as partners rather than opposition.
     
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    Fair enough, but I am talking about the sort of personality type that seeks political power. That sort of narcissism is not what I would consider a common characteristic in well adjusted people.

    Micro, not macro.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html

    005.051
    SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
     
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    Sura 60

    [60:8]GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.

    [60:9]GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    In other words, if you submit to the will of islam, *supposedly* no harm *may* come.
     
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    Can I have a confirmation rather than "may", I would feel safer with a "will"

     
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    Errr... try re-reading it. Its pretty much the opposite of what you quote in the post above. Quite typical of religious scriptures (Jewish, Christian, Muslim) to contradict themselves throughout and its a shame so many tend to follow the extreme side.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    This would negate any confirmation that someone *will* be safer.
     
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