Yahoo, MSN and Google

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by discuss4u, Mar 21, 2008.

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    I have a website and optimized for a keyword. After nearly a year I manage to make it at the first position for the keyword in Google and MSN. But I cannot even find my website when I search for the same keyword in Yahoo.

    Did anyone experience this before and how should I modify my site?
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    The issue is Google, Yahoo! & MSN all use different algorithmic methods to provide relevant search results. It's not simple to optimize "a" web page for all three. Many people will make multiple related web pages and gear each one specifically to a search engine.
     
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    That's really strange. In all my experience, Yahoo! is usually always the easiest to rank for. My general rule of thumb is Rank high in Google, and teh rest will take care of themselves. Maybey I'm wrong.
     
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    It may help to read through How to Optimize for Yahoo! and see if there is something there you can try or add to your current optimisation methods.



     
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    Hi,
    I am eager to ask how you improved you position in Google and MSN. I assure if you share it with us now,soon,someone is having the solution of your problem of Yahoo too.
    Regards,
    tony707
     
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    You should respectfully mention that doing that can have an adverse affect on your Google positions.
     
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    My dear friend

    You are right if you get top in google you will automatically get top in other search engine you need not have to do further efforts.

    Cool Mate and Enjoy your day
     
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  8. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    If you had bothered to read the 1st post, you would have seen that this is not so. Do try and read at least the first post before making broad claims like you did. You look foolish otherwise.


     
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    Wrong, all the major search engines use different methods and factors to create relevant search results. Just because you rank in Google doesn't mean you'll rank in MSN or Yahoo!, please stop trolling threads and just repeating others answers.
     
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    I would suggest at this time do not bother about MSN and Yahoo, try Google, it is not possible to optimize so that all 3 will have good results. What I can suggest is maybe you have optimize some of your internal pages for MSN and Yahoo and your main index page for Google.
     
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    I would disagree here. The OP obviously is trying to get as much exposure to his website from all SEs. That is a smart move. One should never forget other SEs simply because Google is #1. If Google decides to rank you low for whatever reason, or sandbox you, then what?

    The OP has gotton the top result for 2 of the 3 main SEs. It makes perfect sense to continue and get top results on all 3 main SEs.


     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Problem with this approach is when you are chasing one you might be sacrificing the results of the other two. Of course if you can get all 3 to the top that is the best. But I do not think so given that all 3 uses different algorithms, it is really lucky to have 2 out of 3 already.


     
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    I understand what you are saying here. My oldest website ranks #1 for a few terms on all 3 SEs (maybe because it is in DMOZ, not sure), so it is possible.

    I would suggest implementing some of the suggestions for Yahoo that would not be a drastic change and see if it helps. There are a lot of methods mentioned so can take your pick as relevant to your website.

    Note that I speak from experience regarding Google Sandbox (had to wait 8 months before that site got out). High Yahoo traffic especially during this period helped make that site profitable with no Google visitors.

     
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    I would agree with you in the case of implementing changes that would help for Yahoo. But overall if you had to choose, Google still stands at Number 1.

     
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    In fact, I have another site which rank #1 in Yahoo for an alternative form the keyword. But the problem is that this another site is targeting at another country so it becomes somehow useless (not totally useless indeed) even if I get the first position in US Yahoo.
     
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    Thanks Claudek, I will try to study it. :D
     
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    My WP blogs rank better in longtail keywords, but don't rank well for Google.

    I believe Google does not care much for sitewide links, while Yahoo doesn't mind.

    These are the differences that I've found.
     
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    keywords in domains seem to get you further right away with msn
     
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