New Amazon Referral Rule: No Commission on Specific Items

Discussion in 'Amazon' started by gamefray, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. #1
    First off, I would like to state that I am extremely pissed off. I received a call yesterday stating "We are sorry, but we are no longer offering commission on 'hard to get' items. Effective tomorrow, you will not receive commission for these items."

    How ridiculous is that? Less then 24 hours notice?

    I have generated millions in revenue for Amazon, and I feel extremely cheated. How can they define a 'hard to get' item?

    To me this seems like they are opening the floodgates. Now everytime associates make too much money on a specific item, they will discontinue associates from getting a commission from it.

    I have never been backdoored like this from any other affiliate program. What are other peoples thoughts?
     
    gamefray, Mar 16, 2008 IP
  2. markowe

    markowe Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Of course, they have their margin to maintain and everything, and they also have a right to change prices and terms without notice. But you would think they would take a little more care of their affiliates. And are they REALLY leading a loss with these items? Surely they have lots of clever price algorithms in place to stop that kind of thing...

    I guess we just can't base our business model solely on those bargain items, it's just too unreliable, like what happened with those Amazon coupon sites a while back.
     
    markowe, Mar 17, 2008 IP
  3. changrit

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    Excuse me, but would you explain "what is hard to get item" or would you please give me an example.
     
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  4. gamefray

    gamefray Peon

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    Thats exactly it right there. It canno't be defined. Amazon needs to keep an updated list for the Affiliates on what those items are.
     
    gamefray, Mar 17, 2008 IP
  5. HiFiHiFi68

    HiFiHiFi68 Peon

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    #5
    What's your website that you are making Amazon millions on? Give an example of something Amazon isn't paying you a commission on. Right now you are being deliberately evasive and unclear.
     
    HiFiHiFi68, Mar 18, 2008 IP
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    #6
    you mean by phone?
     
    chapicha, Mar 18, 2008 IP
  7. HiFiHiFi68

    HiFiHiFi68 Peon

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    What's the frequency, Kenneth?
     
    HiFiHiFi68, Mar 19, 2008 IP
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    freshdevelopment Notable Member

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    gamefray, please give us some more information on this if you can.

    Is this Amazon US?
    Did they specify to you any products?
    Who phoned you?
    Is there anywhere we can read more about this?
     
    freshdevelopment, Mar 19, 2008 IP
  9. gamefray

    gamefray Peon

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    Yes, this is Amazon US.

    They stated one product specifically, but they also said they would be doing it for all "hard to get items". Whatever that means.

    Someone from the Associates team phoned be, I forgot their name.

    I have not seen this information posted anywhere. Which seems ridiculous.
     
    gamefray, Mar 19, 2008 IP
  10. HiFiHiFi68

    HiFiHiFi68 Peon

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    Thanks Kenneth for avoiding answering the question and not naming your website. Do you think the US will win the war in Viet Nam? Do you think the Boston Red Sox will ever win the World Series? What are the chances that Britney Spears will divorce Kevin Federline? Will we ever land a Man on the the Moon? Tell me, oh wise one. Do you think maybe Amazon is not paying you your commission for selling millions of products because you can not answer direct questions?
     
    HiFiHiFi68, Mar 20, 2008 IP
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    freshdevelopment Notable Member

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    Thanks, this all seems quite harsh of them. And to not have any information anywhere is also quite weird. Do you have a blog? If so write about it, plenty of people will want to know.

    I use the UK amazon associate mainly and have not seen or heard anything like this happening.
     
    freshdevelopment, Mar 21, 2008 IP
  12. gamefray

    gamefray Peon

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    Why would I give away my niche? Maybe I will just give you my bank account numbers and credit card numbers too while I am at it.
     
    gamefray, Mar 22, 2008 IP
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    #13
    I would say go get another merchant but I know its tough building backlinks then to get bird turded like this.

    A hard to get item is way to vague and this is why I will be letting all my links and campaigns die over time.

    I can see a hard to get item such as a popular xmas item such as elmo .... now becoming a hard to get item ... just way too vague. They can kiss 5 figures a month goodbye.
     
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    I tend to agree. Amazon seems to do some shady things
     
    cssdeveloper, Feb 14, 2009 IP
  15. anandsoft

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    Gamefray: Big companies are not necessarily big in business ethics. It takes considerable effort in researching the products and promoting the same. One can't understand how an item that sells in thousands is a "hard to get" item? It is likely to happen to other hot selling items as well in your website. Try to diversify the risk so that there are no surprises. Thanks for sharing your experience with DP community.
     
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  16. mariya

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    #16
    No surprise. The economy is taking a toll on everyone. Amazon simply has to increase their profit margin, and by decreasing affiliate commissions, they will raise their revenue.

    Does it suck? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.
     
    mariya, Feb 14, 2009 IP
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    Kerunai Active Member

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    sucks ...sending traffic for nothing this year to some of the products ..sucks
     
    Kerunai, Feb 14, 2009 IP
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    I agree. That really sucks. I hope that doesn't happen to me as well because I've invested a lot to do the right things and bring in business for them.
     
    simmonsunrest, Feb 15, 2009 IP
  19. anandsoft

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    Mariya: Amazon is noted to have best ROI (Return On Investment) among Internet Companies. According to a recent report, the ROIC of Amazon is as below:
    2009: 19.7%
    2008: 14.1%
    2007: 17.6%
    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/12/18/best-stock-for-2009-amazon.aspx
    It is obvious that Amazon doesn't have to struggle to raise their revenues. Refusing high worth affiliates of their rightful commission using programs like "hard to find products" must be helping Amazon meet their enhanced targets.
    By the way, do Amazon publish a list of "hard to find" products list so that affiliates are intimated before hand of such products?
     
    anandsoft, Feb 17, 2009 IP
  20. BlackTactics

    BlackTactics Banned

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    i would feel cheated too. seems unfair -especially with only a 24hours notice. i could see if you werent giving them any business, but jeez.
     
    BlackTactics, Feb 25, 2009 IP