This brings a smile to my face... Ron Paul's Missouri supporters take charge of weekend county caucuses http://www.kansascity.com/153/story/535453.html Excerpt --- *NEW* Campaign Promotional Video (Short) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LH-6fctaTc ---
LA Times: Top of the Ticket Blog The Ron Paul revolution continues http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/the-ron-paul-re.html Excerpt Rotflmao! Viva la revolucion!
Hm, then remind me again my friend what exactly you're doing here and why you decided to even visit this thread in the first place.
You're welcome? Paul slighted by the 'neoconservative' GOP http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080319/NATION/231391516/1001 Excerpt From Page 2
MSBNC - Ron Paul - The fed caused the bubble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94VWPjUQSM ... What's this? Ron Paul runs a conservative campaign with no loans? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/ron-paul.html ... Ron Paul on KTSA 550 AM (San Antonio) http://youtube.com/watch?v=pOLGwEkbYrg ... Exciting Ron Paul news in Nevada... http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020092.html ... Alaska is Ron Paul Territory! http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/03/alaska-is-ron-p.html ...
USA Today : Ron Paul keeps presidential run alive http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-03-22-ronpaul_N.htm --- FANTASTIC ARTICLE!!!!! Q&A with Ron Paul! 'I Feel Badly About Just Quitting’ Ron Paul on why he's still running for president. http://www.newsweek.com/id/124451 Interesting comments on Obama and Clinton on Page 2
Stupid question, is there any way that Ron Paul can get elected now? I heard on the news that he hadn't officially ended his campaign, but after that they said there was almost no way he could get the nomination from McCain... And he said he wouldn't run a third party campaign, right? So... He's done?
Nope, the Revolution still lives... http://theinternetguy.wordpress.com...ed-the-president-of-usa-this-is-a-revolution/ MOST OF YOU PEOPLE WOULD RATHER ARGUE WITH MORONS THAT SERVE NO PURPOSE HERE RATHER THAN KEEP THIS IMPORTANT INFO UP TOP AND IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH! KEEP THIS BUMPED EVERY DAY PLEASE! IMPORTANT : YOU PEOPLE NEED TO IGNORE THE POSTS FROM JHL - RYAN - SLAPSHOT AND WRELLIM BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so i know what i am talking about. Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fruadulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for thier candidate. They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election. Any candidate and thier supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention. If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here : http://www.gop.com/images… PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS. I know many of you are new to the election process but don’t worry. I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to. Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process? The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM. I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee. First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to that candidate. So if a candidate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn’t reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates. Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the RonPaul campaign strategy will work. When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates. What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents. View the hard count of actaul pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers… And we have lots of delegates. Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September- -463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people. - 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot. - 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish. - 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish. I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here : http://www.gop.com/Images… Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing? So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish. This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention. The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation’s primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008 SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN? This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message. Now i assure you that even though we didn’t win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates. Doesn’t Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination? NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works. We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states. Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day. So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn’t you? I assure you we have not! The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination. I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not. NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! Info on how to become a delegate here : http://www3.webng.com/ron… Dr. Steve Parent
First, this is not a stupid question. But certainly a lot of people are learning a lot more about the political and nomination process than before, myself included. I don't think Paul can get nominated in the Republican party now. There is a tiny chance they could get the nomination at the national convention to go to a second vote, in which case, many delegates would not be bound by their state's results, but the delegetes could vote their conscience. But the chance of this is very small. It's why Huckabee stayed in so long then dropped. Huck wanted to be President to be President. Paul isn't running to add to his resume. Guys like Huck and Romney figured it would be in their best interest to play "good Republican", back McCain and come back in 4 years to duke it out. But Paul is staying on the ballot, and he is still campaigning. He's not going to fade away like Pat Buchanan, and leave nothing behind. He's (apparently) building a national organization (think perhaps, MoveOn) for the conservative/libertarian base. Meanwhile, Paulunteers continue to become delegates, and alter the Republican party platform at the county, district and state levels, hopefully also at the national level. He's not done, but the short terms goals and tactics have. Right now, I think we're Washington @ Valley Forge. And I do not think he will run 3rd party. But he has to keep that somewhat open, so he can use it against the Republican party to secure an opportunity to speak at the National Convention. Basically, "I have 10% of your base, and if I walk, you lose for sure"
I'd love him to run 3rd Party, he would certainly rattle the Republicans and get the word out to the sheeple. At least when one of the three puppets are in and the USA is going even further down the drain he can turn to the people and say "You had your chance to elect an honest man but you god damn blew it."
I don't think so. 3rd party candidates get no run in the MSM. It's an exercise in futility. If he could get in the debates, it might be worth it, but no way the bogus polls get him the necessary % to have a shot. Alex Jones was raving about this awhile ago and I had to stop listening because of it. This isn't "poke them in the eye", or some other game where we try to get a jab in here or there. Paul has actually mobilized thousands of activists to start taking over the GOP. For the first time in ages, he's making the kind of measurable progress that JBS does with anti-NAU legislation. He's leading tangible change. So while it might be satisfying to kick the big boys in the balls, just as it would be to impeach Nancy Pelosi, Dick Cheney and George Bush, I'd trade it all for a legit chance in the GOP 2012 for a liberty candidate, or the repeal of the Patriot Act. I'd rather see Real ID stopped, or the borders protected rather than Donald Rumsfeld tried in France as a war criminal. So on and so forth. We all have to keep working towards making the world a better place, and a lot of the time that involves trying to slow down the forces of tyranny, but not necessarily by throwing ourselves in front of a tank.
Here is Jesse Benton, the campaign communications director, trying to answer the awkward question on everyone's mind. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nAB4RItuPVg Can Ron Paul become President? Probably not. But the campaign was never about Ron Paul and power. It was always about change and ideas. --- And this is what is continuing to happen UPDATE: Ron Paul supporters take control of Republican caucus http://stcharlesjournal.stltoday.com/articles/2008/03/23/news/sj2tn20080322-0323stc-caucus0.ii1.txt You have to read this ^^ it's priceless. Excerpt LOL, in other words, our party is basically a small group of insiders, who are too lazy to care and got caught with their pants down.