OK First one belongs to a MU Online Server that I run... www.twilightmuonline.com having this small community forum: forum.twilightmuonline.com And second is this MU Online Download Center, which I take care like a hobby... (a hobby that costs 160$/month for the dedicated hosting... but thats a different story ): www.seeitworks.com This website increases very rapidly in unique users visiting, I guess it's fame grows every day trough the MU Online communities... cos only few months ago it was barely having 1000 unique visitors/day and now it passed 3000... and alexa rank is going down like crazy... Anyway please post some reviews of the 2 websites here... your opinions, suggestions, ideas... please no flaming. Thanks.