Bum marketing?

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  1. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Thanks :) Then, I think I am on the right track. I had few sales, but still can't make stable sales everyday. That's my goal so far.
     
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  2. burtie

    burtie Banned

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    #22
    Wow it worked!

    #1 slot - http://www.google.com/search?q=lyin...ent-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB241GB241&aq=t
     
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  3. ExpertForumGuy

    ExpertForumGuy Well-Known Member

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    #23
    To make stable sales you gotta do one or both of the following.

    - Autoresponder, autoresponder, and more autoresponder.
    - Promote residual income products.

    Otherwise you'll see days like:

    • 80.32$
    • 0$
    • 212.23$
    • 0$
    • 0$
    • 33.9$
    • 276.33$
    instead of
    • 300$
    • 250$
    • 200$
    • 600$
    • 300$
    • 250$
    • 500$
     
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  4. burtie

    burtie Banned

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    #24
    How do you mean? Like membership sites?
     
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  5. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #25
    "- Autoresponder, autoresponder, and more autoresponder."

    I was thinking about using Aweber, but I am just not sure, that I will get the money back.
     
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  6. alexs464

    alexs464 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    It's simple.

    If you get lots of targeted traffic to your site - then you will make your money back. (Provide a "CAN'T REFUSE" free offer (ebook, tips...) TARGETED visitors will opt-in - then you sell to them... Several time I heard that response is 1%+...
    So, 1000 opt ins = 10 sales...

    As long as you provide them quality info, they will listen to you and buy whatever you tell them to buy ;)

    Alex
     
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  7. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    #27
    I'd keep away from squidoo coz it looks like they're gonna ban lens with affiliate links, hubpages are doing that already.
     
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  8. Think_Big

    Think_Big Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Squidoo are not going to ban lenses with affiliate links.

    They are tough on spam but affiliate links are fine.
     
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  9. ExpertForumGuy

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    #29
    When you promote residual income products, you'll create a "base" of cash for yourself. Residual means you'll get paid multiple times for the duration of the customer's participation of that product.

    Examples of Residual Income Products
    - Membership Sites
    - Online Software Sites [Keyword Research Tools]
    - Webhosting
    - Autoresponder Services
    - EBay product supplier databases
    - Etc.

    Why Residual?
    Think about it. Let's say that you have a residual income product that pays you about 10$ a month. Your goal is to make about $1,000 a month consistently.

    If you know the product converts, then you should start dedicating articles to promoting that specific product. Write, Write, Write until your fingers fall off, because your trying sale to 3-4 people a day for about a month.

    Once you accomplish this goal with bum marketing, you will have a residual income net of 1,000 a month almost guaranteed. Since you accomplished this method with bum marketing this number is sure to increase.

    Also, with this increased traffic - you may want to have an autoresponder so that you can collect the e-mails and start selling related products.

    alright! [*gasp!*] INTERNET MARKETING is TMND!
     
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  10. reapr

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    #30
    Bum marketing works but even a free system will fail for a person because they get caught up in analysis paralysis and never get started. Just do it.

    I also recommend once the dough starts coming in to reinvest some of that money into tools.
     
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    #31
    I just received bum marketing but I am working on my cash secrets first did anyone ever try this program? if you did can you let me know how it worked for you. Thanks a bunch.
     
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    #32
    How are you doing it? I have been trying to make an income online and I start a program and it seems to take forever to get a list? How do you get that great list everyone talks about to sell products to?
     
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  13. Tommo

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    #33
    I really hate to rain on your parade but it's only number 1 because no one is searching for that term and therefore the no one is using it to market products.

    Put yourself in the shoes of someone who is searching for a cure for Compulsive lying what will they type into google?

    Cure for compulsive lying personality... maybe
    lying personality compulsive ... very unlikely

    The reason that keyword showed up was that the tool you used pulled results from overture which hasn't been updated for about 16 months. It often jumbled up words in its database.

    The only people who search for lying personality compulsive will be people like you who are checking things out in google..thus perpetuating the problem.

    I fired up one of my tools and checked out compulsive lying for you. "Treatment For compulsive lying " has 600 searches and only 10 competing pages.

    "Stop compulsive lying" had 540 searches and about 2800 competing pages.

    Both these phrases would be relatively easy to dominate with the right articles and the right domain name.
     
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  14. burtie

    burtie Banned

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    #34
    That was very nice of you... Thanks

    What tool do you use? What would be the best way to dominate in this search?
     
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  15. Tommo

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    #35
    I used Micro Niche Finder for those KW's

    As for the answer to how to dominate those keywords.. read my e-book.. :) Seriously write articles based around the keywords, distribute them, create squidoo lenses , hubpages, use sites like clipmarks and twitter. use gather .com and wetpaint etc..throw in a bit of social bookmarking and within a week or 2 you'll have 5-6 of the top 10 results.

    On some of my recent campaigns I've managed 10 of the top 15 results in Google and that was for phrases with loads more competition.

    Article marketing with niche phrases Is powerful if done right. For 1 or my sites i wrote 8 articles and distributed them I made 10 sales in a week and then 1 or 2 sales per week from then on. 4 months later I distributed the same articles again...guess what another 8 sales in a week.
     
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    #36
    I have just been watching the video... What an impressive tool...

    How reliable is it?
     
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  17. Tommo

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    Very reliable, you need to be a bit careful when you are mining data from google as they do ban you for a few hours if you do too much at once .. but if you manually remove phrases that you obviously don't want then you don't get a problem.
     
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  18. TrafficLicious

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    #38
    Hi Tommo and burtie,

    I had to butt in otherwise I'll be doing you guys a big disfavor (IMO) if I kept quiet.

    I've bought MNF as well before but it really isn't as accurate as another tool I'm using. The name of that tool can be found on the top right hand corner of my blog (http://www.trafficlicious.com) under Kelvin's Personal Software Arsenal ... and no, you don't have to buy with my link if you don't want to.

    Getting back to that compulsive lying thingy, I would suggest going for these 3 phrases first:
    - Compulsive lying disorder
    - treatment for compulsive lying
    - treatment compulsive lying

    All the very best!
     
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    #39
    Thanks for that TrafficLicious,

    What stats does the software you use come up with for these?
     
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    #40
    Burtie,

    Stats available are:
    - No. of searches (like everything else, it's an estimate)
    - No. of results (broad searches)
    - R/S (Results divided by searches)

    Stats available with an Adwords account:
    - No of google ads shown for that phrase search
    - #1 CPC (1st position's cost per click)
    - Est. clicks

    Cheers!
     
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