My ex-friend made $400 a day with Adsense - Need help analyzing his website

W: I've done that many times but he is too afraid to come out and face me. He's not a fighter, he's a bully and verbal abuser, that's all.

We are an interesting match up. He knows far more about computers than I do, but I am a far better tactical strategist and debater than he is (I've beaten him in chess 8 or 9 times straight). What a matchup.

My site on him will be expanding soon, and will include examples of how he's stolen from me and others in multiple ways, as well as the fact that he has buried treasure chests of gold bars in his forest preserve somewhere underground, at least $500,000 worth of gold I'd estimate. Maybe some pirates will want to know about that. lol So stay tuned.

 

W: The ads are not on the main domain page because he wants you to focus on paying for the Analyst service. The ads are on 3000 other pages. To find them, just go to google and type in "diagnose-me" + (any medical term) and it will come up. I posted an example in the first post of the thread, a page on hemorrhoids from his site with ads in it. Go back and try that link.

 

Here is an explanation from one of my techie and internet advisors:

Terrence:

"That's easy. Look at the subjects he's writing about. Something like "varicose veins" has an average cost per click of $3.00 or more. If he has decent traffic then advertisers will bid for a highly searched term. Basically, he could be getting $4.00 or $5.00 for a single click. He only needs 100 clicks per day to make $400.00

I get that many clicks in a day on adsense. But my site is about indie animation. I am lucky if I get $0.02 per click.

I figured this out when I found this guy who ran a gadget website which had far less traffic than my site but made A LOT more money than mine.

The moral? People aren't searching for indie animation. My old site is never going to make money on adsense.

Find out what people are searching for and what advertisers are willing to pay a premium on. The more competitive the search term, the higher the cost per click. "

 

oh.. ok..

Now I think i get it... if you bite the bullet and fill out the huge forms, it must show you a list of conditions that you have symptoms for... THEN, when you click on that list, it shows you the condition and THEN you get the Ads.

Other posters are right, ads for medical terms pay a lot per click. I can see how this site could easily make 400.00 a day.

The site is no slouch either. Looks like a ton of work went into collecting the data and building the relational database (Notice all the cross references and links to similar conditions etc.).

Whether your friend is a jerk, or not, he's done good work on this site.

 

W: No, I don't think so. If you fill out the 900 questions in the questionnaire, you get a lengthy report and a review by a doctor too.

The ads are on the 3000 web pages under the domain, that are found through search engines or something. It's a separate thing and business.

If medical terms pay so much, how can we create pages of medical data pages? Can we just copy and paste a ton of info from other sites like that? Is there a software that can duplicate a whole website?

 

Here is another example of one of his pages, this one describes a stroke:

http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C71009.html

As you can see, he didn't write the text on the site. He copied and pasted it from other sites, using some type of program he wrote up that automates it quickly, then he changes one or two words per sentence to get out of plaigarizing, but even then that is a very fine line and some still consider it plaigarism even if you only change one or two words in the sentence.

 

Another reply from my techie advisor:

"How do I get 100 clicks? I have over 1000 posts on my blog, all original content written by me about ONE particular subject. Search engines love this. I have also written articles that have been published elsewhere. The more outside links TOO your site, the higher the search ranking.

You can't duplicate his site. Search engines will penalize you for duplicate content and then you'll never get any traffic. You need real, original content. It's all about "relevance". The more relevant your content for a particular keyword, the higher your ranking.

This is why you have to create a site about something you would REALLY enjoy writing about, and I mean writing a lot. "

 

Wow, so this is what it's like to have a nemesis.

Anyway, your friend is light years ahead of you in terms of making money online. You're still using HTML, tables, and last decade's design styles while he's a programmer with database knowledge. It's like stone age vs guns.

His website also has an apparent business plan, while yours does not. He has thousands of pages which make money from advertising and help the front page. He also collects people's information and provides a paid diagnosis service. He could also email them and make money from affiliate marketing.

Your site seems to have unique content with potential. But you're going to need a better content management system (aka his "templates system"), a brand new design and new graphics, and some sort of business plan. As it is, your front page is so poor in quality and functionality. The page is one extremely long page with tons of info that ppl will just scroll through and the navigation buttons are at the bottom.

The most important thing is to organize your content. See the site layout below:
http://s.themes.wordpress.net/snapshots/4387-big.jpg

 

If I were you I would make friends with him (again). Apologize and let him be the master and do as he wish. Learn everything that he knows, suck his brains, then come out and beat him in his own game. It seems he knows a lot of things in this and his experience and skills is worth "spying" on.

 

W: I tried once but he refused. Once he gets on your bad side, he likes to stay there, as he feeds on hate and negativity. Plus, whenever we are together he verbally abuses me, picks on me like a schoolyard bully, and calls me his "verbal punching bag" which he did many times when we lived together. His vibe has gotten so bad now that it gives me the creeps and feels like radiation poisoning.

In social relationships he is a total A-hole. If he doesn't find you useful in some way, he treats you like dirt, literally. One can only stand so much of a personality like that.

Can't I just create a medical database site like he did, and copy paste tons of info from other sites like he did, and put adsense on it too?

Or just save a hundred of his pages, change the adsense pub code, and upload them to a new domain name? Like healthlibrary.org or something like that?

 

As to my website, sure the buttons and format are outdated and don't look contemporary or professional.

But I am a passionate articulate writer and my site gets my point across to its niche target audience.

Even if I made the domain index page shorter, more compact and simpler, I don't think it would do that much. The main problem is that I don't have something that I can sell for very much money that appeals to very many people. People have to feel that something is worth paying for in order to pay for it. And on the internet, people tend to be cheap cause there is this presumption that things on the internet ought to be free.

Plus a lot of my fans and readers are on a tight budget.

But you are right in that my site is unique. Still, the audience is a niche and my views and solutions expressed on my site are not mainstream, and only reflect a minority view.

Basically, because my material is controversial, that in itself has attracted attention and brought in traffic. But as you know, using controversy to promote your business or site has temporary and unstable effects.

I need a more solid plan and something that can sell for more.

Is there an international real estate affiliate program out there?

Have you folks seen this expatriate site? It's supposed to be the most successful one. They make a lot of money and get about a million unique visitors a month.

http://www.escapeartist.com

Check it out. What do you think their secret it? And how do they get a million unique visitors per month?

 

By the way folks, if you think that nemesis who owns www.diagnose-me.com is interesting, take a look at this other nemesis of mine who's known me for years. He too is a character who "hates everyone and everyone hates him".

http://www.happierabroad.com/Dave_Fuller.htm

It's hard to believe that he's for real.

 

Honestly dude, I think you should stop doing hate sites.

 

i really doubt this is your friends site. i bet its your site considering how many times youve posted links

 

way ahead bigtime. The pages have pr in the toolbar so that's quite an accomplishment for 3000 pages. He's probably getting a lot of hits off long tail keywords. I would think that the site has been heavily bookmarked and gets a lot of repeat traffic.

I think your ex-friend may have been worried that you were going to jump his shark. That's way he started to feed his anger.

It wouldn't be as easy as getting a medical database and just creating thousands of pages. You said that he has three workers. What were they doing? He was working 16 hours a day and what was he doing?

Your main site needs to be cleaned up. But that's will be a lot of work so leave it alone.

I would create a blog network and use your main site as a hub. Each blog could capture a niche like offshore realestate, international dating, expatriate living and use affliate marketing like cb or cj. If you can get some traffic into the blog you could then sell banner ads.

 

This is going to be blunt but I couldn't resist replying after painfully reading your post above. I mean no harm and I

really hope that you would head in a more successful direction after reading my reply...


Again, this is going to be brutally blunt.... If you can't take it, please skip my post!
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You decided to read anyway?..... GOOD!

"But I am a passionate articulate writer and my site gets my point across to its niche target audience."

1) STOP MAKING EXCUSES !!! Your website is plain ugly and quite frankly... pathetic... I mean, how could you reason

keeping the site the way it is knowing that the "buttons and format" are dated? YOU ARE SCARING AWAY POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS

with the unorganized layout and tacky colors. Web pages have evolved over time to the Web 2.0 that it is today... If everyone was settled w/ the tackiness we'd be stuck in the dark ages of the internet.

Just think first impressions... How could you proudly advertise that site of yours the way it looks right now? The

passionate, articulate, & controversial content?!?! Oh wait, what content?!? The potential customer probably clicked out of

your site before they could even give your content a chance!

We live in the day and age where everything is visual and people have super-short attention spans. You need to project a

professional image and an easy to navigate thru your website the minute they land on your page. There is no excuse

for neglecting this basic necessity. There are tons of templates for free CMS scripts out there to keep your info nice and

organized. Even if you are lazy or only know basic html, THERE ARE PLENTY OF DP'ers offering their services for rediculously

low rates. I'm sure you can save $50-$100 from your trip funds to pay someone here to quickly setup a decent index page.

If your site looks cheap, you look cheap... and it's quite possible the views and experiences that you claim might be cheap

as well. GIVE SOME VALUE TO YOUR SITE!!!


Even if I made the domain index page shorter, more compact and simpler, I don't think it would do that much. You would

be suprised! LESS IS MORE!


"But you are right in that my site is unique.....But as you know, using controversy to promote your business or site has

temporary and unstable effects.

2) STOP BEING COCKY !!! Yup its unique, get over it... Something told you that there could be more to it...

something told you that "Hey, there might be tons of other people out there who may share or learn from my experiences and

views... After all... look at all the women surrounding me!"

You even realize that after the controversy wears out... what else do you have left? Controversy is your hook to fish them

in... BUT YOU BROKE THE DAMN FISH LINE trying too hard by overloading the visitor w/ so much unorganized content.

Organize your content, don't give them too much... Save the "passionate, articulate" and saucy details for your ebook... (btw

i know it's just forum posting grammar but I would fix the first two sentence fragments of your post before considering the

ebook route!)



The main problem is that I don't have something that I can sell for very much money that appeals to very many people. People have to feel that something is worth paying for in order to pay for it. And on the internet, people tend to be cheap cause there is this presumption that things on the internet ought to be free.

Plus a lot of my fans and readers are on a tight budget. ....

I need a more solid plan and something that can sell for more.


3) ENTER: THE CONTROVERSIAL EBOOK Wrong! eCommerce is stronger than ever... people don't tend to be cheap... they only are cheap when they lack confidence in your site. Focus your writing skills into a strong ebook that people would be interested in purchasing... an alternative lifestyle, etc... If most people tend to be cheap and have "presumptions that things on the internet ought to be free..." then affiliates would be broke... no1 would brag about making $500+ daily... HECK YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS POST ABOUT UR EX-FRIEND AND HOW HE MAKES $400 DAILY.

But "a lot of your fans are on a tight budget..." but wait... you want "something that can sell for more." MAKE UP YOUR MIND MAN!!! PEOPLE WILL PAY FOR STUFF BECAUSE THEY ARE CURIOUS... and THEY WANT TO LEARN FROM AN EXPERT W/ TONS OF WOMEN AROUND HIM !!! You don't need to draw the freeloader crowd because THE NEVER INTEND TO PURCHASE ANYTHING ANYWAY... if that's the case WHY EVEN BOTHER W/ AFFILIATE MARKETING?!?! On the Warrior Forums a teacher quit his teaching job to successfully make a living selling $19 ebooks that he writes (not that ebooks is just the only way to go but i'm just trying to make a point that people will spend $$$)

I have more to comment but the more I write, the more this is going downhill. Like I said in my previous post, stop being so shortsighted and limiting yourself. You have a unique niche but its going down the drain because you fail at persuasive writing in lieu of so called "passionate & articulate" but highly boring writing...


In ending:

Stop contradicting yourself; you're losing a lot of credibility. Instead of wasting time trying to "update" your website on people you hate, focus that attention on building a stronger site or writing an awesome ebook. WTF cares about those people you hate really... actually I never would have known about them if you didn't repeatedly advertise their "hate" pages... Get a life man and stop polluting the forums w/ your nonsense!


One final time, everything I wrote I mean it in a good way... trust me I'd rather sleep than to comment anything at all but you know the rest lolz...


-JR

 

JacktheRipper,

Thank you for your analysis of my site. Constructive criticism is always welcome.

I have three questions for you though.

1. The most successful expatriate site, http://www.escapeartist.com, also has a very big and long welcome page on their main domain page. It is tedious to look at and find what you're looking for. My eyes also get sore looking at it. So how come they are so successful? They get a million unique visitors a month, they say, and obviously make a lot of money. They even have a staff team. And they get away with charging $1500 for an ad on their site. What is their secret? How come they aren't even using Adsense?

2. It is not true that my readers find my writing boring and non-persuasive. Have you seen these quotes from my fans about my writing and life? http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Quotes.htm And did you see the 400+ fan letters I collected over the years, at http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Reader_Responses.htm

You can't say that no one finds my writing persuasive, inspiring and passionate after seeing all those quotes and letters above!

3. Finally, here is the promo page for that ebook of mine you were talking about. What do you think of it? What's your analysis of it? I tried to model it after other promo pages I've seen: http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook.htm

Thanks.

 

Bogart, his three workers were doing other things. One was cooking and maintaining the grounds and other errands. Another was collecting payments through the website for the diagnose-me.com service and sending payments to the doctors that reviewed the reports. It was a complex system where many things could go wrong and new things go wrong all the time and had to be fixed constantly. The third one, I didn't meet, but he was probably doing landscaping and construction work. All three of them are gone now, after a nasty fight in which they all claimed Stefan cheated them and stole their salaries. Two of them were very good and peaceful guys that I knew. One was even a happy go lucky New Age hippie without a streak of negativity in him, yet he wanted to beat up Stefan. That's how bad it got.

By the way, I've seen those blogs where content from a forum automatically goes to it through a script. How do you set that up? And what is the advantage of that?