he wont get caught. what he is doing is "legal". But at the base, he robbed it. actually if that answer your question, hes right here,alive, reading these pages.
Exilus Ok, don't start again discussing his tips, because it's kinda stupid. For you they might be basic, but for newbies they may be useful.
He actually has had successful automotive websites in the past. Jake has a mechanic on staff and he legally purchased the rights to the technology. When people find success they also find people who want to knock them down. "haters". I applaud him and his success. I am hoping that he "robs" somebody else real soon.
One thing I don't like HIM the most is, he is very sneaky and dishonest. He copycat everything from water 4 gas, bash it on his landing page, you guys send traffic to his website, when visitors click the water 4 gas link to make comparison, guess what? It is his CB affiliate link, you guys send free traffic for him to water 4 gas even the customers bought from water 4 gasou got $0, .he's making $ both ways.......this is one of the worst and old practices on CB.. Please don't get into earnings screen shot /videos again
Jake is a great guy. I wouldn't be making a penny without his help. Thanks man for helping me get started.
This is correct. You might be sending him lots of traffic and earning nothing. This is a very dirty trick. Is it even legal with clickbank?
pff for 1000$/day i see its worth it. Sorry.Earning as much as a doctor sitting on ur chair doing nothing? sounds good to me.
That says it right...basic tips...I won't go there either...but I will say $35 was steep for the info I received...jmo.
Guys, Look at all the water4gas products below. There will always be competing products. Falfalfro has just done a better job then the other guys. Even satellitesoft jumped in on it. http://xxxxx.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net/ http://xxxxx.centemax.hop.clickbank.net/ http://xxxxx.drivewater.hop.clickbank.net/ (sat soft's product) http://xxxxx.amdproduct.hop.clickbank.net/ http://xxxxx.wamabam.hop.clickbank.net/ http://xxxxx.burnwater1.hop.clickbank.net/ - actually uses water4gas images! http://xxxxx.fuelwater1.hop.clickbank.net/ - dodgy graphics! http://xxxxx.hydrostar.hop.clickbank.net/ - crap crap crap
and I just though I would point this out.. http://www.wam-a-bam.com was created on feb 2, 2005 http://www.water4gas.com was created on nov 21, 2006 so, water4gas actually copied wam a bam. falfalfaro saw an oppotunity to make money in the same niche.. he created the same product with a lower selling point and offererd a bigger affiliate payout. satsoft's version of water4gas... actually i should say.. satsoft's version of wam-a-bam is sold at the higher price point and offers a full payout.. water4gas has just done a much better job of branding over the original wam-a-bam
still doesnt make it right though, but I suspect the people that support him have done the same thing and duped products
You two guys logic: Two wrongs make it right. If you're stealing, I am stealing. Also, We're talking about his sneaky pigback practice. Does water4gas pigbacked to wam-a-bam? does drivewater piggedback to water4gas? Even if they do, two wrongs don't make it right either, this is a dirty trick hated by all affiliates. BTW, why he is not defending himself? I know he is right here and reading. Or maybe he is, who knows. -
I was curiously observing this thread which started off talking about my earnings, so I didn't want to post a reply earlier. I've learned to stay silent about my earnings since threads about my earnings have blown out of proportion in the past and haven't often resulted in productive discussion. The reason I have this link is because I have done split testing and notice that conversion is higher for my own site when I link to the competition so customers can see that we offer the lower price, and to show that we are not afraid to compare our site to the competition (it builds credibility from the consumer's perspective). Ask any of my affiliates, my site converts better than any of the others. It's a similar affect to calling Dell to custom order a computer, and having the Dell sales rep encourage you to look at HP computers which have less value, because they know you will choose Dell in the end. It's a confidence conveying gesture that helps produce sales of my own product. However, I get sales through this affiliate link extremely rarely (as you can see, I don't say anything good about his site), and I think it is better to do this than losing credit for the sale entirely in the rare instances where a purchase is actually made from that link. Do you know anyone who would be willing to link to the competition for the sake of the customer while also risking losing the sale entirely? It's not a dirty trick - it's common sense for building confidence in our own offering, and my affiliates who contact me have actually been allowed to access my CB sales stats to see how rarely sales occur from this link. My question to you is, would you be confident enough in your own product to link to the competition for comparisons sake, and if you are confident enough, would you simply give away 100% of the sale to a competing product? That's about as silly as putting adsense ads on your site but not taking the credit for the clicks. Also, please look at the posting history of 'bubbaunderground'. It's interesting to note he only appears on 'falafelfro' bashing posts, and in conjunction with posts by Exilus.
Ok guys I am going to defend falfelfro first of all his $35 dollar ebook the price is not steep why? Well it might be if you knew all the tips on their but there were some on their that I never thought of and I tried one put almost no effort into what that tip said maybe 3 minutes in total work and I was surprised to find the next day the money I had spent for ebook was covered not only that that tips converts ridiculously well something around 15 hops per order is not less. So the price for his ebook totally justified. His product "stealing" thats not stealing that BUSINESS everyone does it not just internet marketers and have you read ncmedia's post about this earlier he explained it the best. I'm not says two wrongs make a right becuase re-branding is not stealing therefore it is not wrong its competition in business. If you can't handle that I don't think you should be doing this stuff. As you say can't take the heat get out of the oven. For example if you see and affiliate doing something thats working out really well for him are you just gonna say oh good for you or are you going to ask him what he's doing so you can emulate his results? So in your opinion Patchkaa is this stealing? Falfelfro jumped on a opportunity he saw know hes rich and jealous people are hating. Maybe your mad you didn't see this opportunity before he did. The only thing I was concerned about is his "piggyback" but if you look at his page you see he is just bashing it and saying if you don't believe me check it out ours is better. And he doesn't have a way (I don't think) to pass on the affiliates cookie to the next page if he did and wasn't using it then yes that would be piggyback other wise if what is saying is true about he gets sales rarely from it which is probably true b/c people don't just buy something cause people say its bad if they did we would all be rich.
theres a difference between creating a new product in the same field, and re-selling a product someone else made. most of you supporters support him because you finally managed to make a couple sales with basic tips help you could probably find for free if you knew how to search. Most of you probably had zero clue about marketing and are applying his tips to-the-letter, hence you will never make more than what you are earning actually. Don't come up with the big marketing strategies and arguments. if you couldn't make sales before reading this guy tips, PLEASE dont call yourself a marketer. thanks.
Exilus - let's put a nail in the coffin of this tiresome "stealing" or "duping" allegation. Please refer to the water4gas website and you can see that he is encouraging entrants into his niche to sell certain books he gives away. Despite this, I'm actually selling my own copyrighted eBook (that I hired some people to compile) and not selling any of the books he has even though he encourages it. Regarding the blue water background, it's a free clip-art image you can get in free image galleries. I do business professionally, and don't spend my time as you do trying to spread hate and wish death upon people like you did upon me earlier in the thread.