I made some seo changes, 2 days later I have sitelinks

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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    Proper internal linking of your web pages is the easiest way to get sitelinks. Congradulations.
     
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    Yeah I have to admit my internal linking was a mess before. Now the site itself needs an overhaul to bring it up to date, starting to look very dated now!
     
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    Sitelinks are created by google on its own and I think we can't influence google to create one for our site by making SEO changes. Congrats that you got the much sought after sitelinks to become an authoritative site:)
     
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    Dairyman, you can influence google by having proper internal linking structure like Ssandecki mentioned. They arent created manually, so google needs to be able to understand what your pages are about for the algorithm to assign you accurate links.

    And you mention "authoritive site", thats not the case. But thank you, you've just proved my point. People think its authoritive, and that in itself is good for me as if people think our site has any sort of authority with google, they're more likely to trust us and give us their money.
     
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    Make that four sitelinks in Google.co.uk now:D

    Congrats! All you need to do now is follow the format throughout your site, especially with your more 'important' pages that a user would want to see, like FAQ's and Contact pages. Lookin' good, keep it up!
     
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    in my site also sitelinks came :) but SERPs lost fully :(
     
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    Google has never once stated a site can become an "authority" or "authoritative". This is something that webmasters conjured up on their own. Google does not just decided "Hey, this is an authoritive site!" and all of a sudden it's in the top 10 for 1,000s of keywords. This is earned by quality and quanitiy of backlinks, which usually a so called "authority" site would have a lot of.
     
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    Congratulations - Although I agree that it doesn't mean your site is authoritative, the general public thinks it is. Google does it when you have several sections on your site that enjoy good internal linking and offsite deep linking. It's basically just making it easier for your visitors to quickly visit your most popular sections.
     
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    Congratulation,
    to having sitelink for any particular site is very good sign, and there are many factor affecting for it. main thing is your site having large traffic for that keyword.
    now as u stated that you did some SEO changes and get site link, but your site must be old and having huge traffic for that keyword.
    if you create new site and do the same changes which u did with this site than you wont get site link.
     
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    congratulations dear ;)
     
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    Sounds like a coincidence to me.
     
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    Congrats, Vic! I am surprised that a relatively young website (only one year old) with not that many backlinks (G: 54, Y:5,150) can get Google SiteLinks. Where does Google get the title of the SiteLinks from? For example, there is a SiteLink "Personal Offshore Bank Account", but there's no page with that particular title. Ditto for "Payroll".
     
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    Its not a coincidence. If you have better internal linking google is far more likely to give you these links.


    They appear to have taken the sitelinks from anchor texts pointing to the page, rather than the page titles themselves.
     
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    Vic, that suggests that you can manipulate the title of the Google SiteLink simply by changing (optimising) the anchor text of the links. Would that mean that if you use an optimised title-tag in hyperlinks in combination with a non-optimised (perhaps even non-related) anchor text that you would get the text from the title-tag in your website's Google SiteLink? That would also mean that web developers can almost directly determine the titles of Google SiteLinks?! Would Big G allow that?
    I checked out the source-code of your website and found that there are no title-tags and no anchor texts with "Personal Offshore Bank Account". So where does Google get this from? I also noticed that not a single page (!) on your website has a document-type definition, nor does your website have a sitemap, a robots.txt file, nor has the ownership been verified for Google or Yahoo. These are commonly regarded as essential for search-engine optimisation and obtaining Google SiteLinks. Does this really mean that the Google SiteLinks algorithm disregards all of these things??!! In that case: what is important to get Google SiteLinks?
     
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    Theres no way you could get unrelated sitelink titles. Google will certainly be checking the page and making sure it appears to be relevant to the title chosen. I dont mean manually check, an algorithm can see if the words (or related words) are used on the page. I guess you can influence the title's of sitelinks within reason, but google do appear to have picked them a little at random for me.


    Probably from an external links anchor text, rather than an internal one.



    They aren't required.


    Yes it does, sitemap.xml in the root directory


    I don't need one. The pages I dont want followed are excluded from the sitemap and have "nofollows" on any links pointing to them.


    I'm not sure what you mean "ownership verified". I've verified the site is mine via Google webmaster tools if thats what you mean.


    Just because things are commonly regarded as being essential, doesn't make it true. In truth nobody really knows what is essential. In my experience internal linking is the main factor, with several other unkown factors affecting it as well.
     
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    I did a search on where "Personal Offshore Bank Account" would come from and it appears that none of the backlinks has this keyword-phrase in it. In fact, I found only a couple of webpages that had the word "personal" in it and none of these instances were related to your website. Strange, isn't it?

    With ownership verification I mean that a webmaster should verify with Google Webmaster Tools and/or with Yahoo Site Explorer that the webmaster is the owner of that website. I think the webmaster should place a "verify_v1" (for Google) and/or a "y_key" (for Yahoo) in the header of his webpages. Since you have not done the latter, I thought you hadn't verified the ownership of your website.

    You are right that things, which are commonly regarded as being essential, don't make them true. I just wanted to point out that this is one of those common misbeliefs. The only factor that is still standing is a properly optimised internal link-structure.
     
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    Congrats :) . Really nice to see this
     
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    Okay I need to make one point here, I'm happy enough to discuss my site here and how we can (or cant) get sitelinks. But can we please not either post live links to my website, or use the company name. I'm sure everyone can understand the reasoning for this.



    I've just had a look, and "Personal Offshore Bank Account" is used as the exact anchor in two internal links: order.shtml and fees.shtml I'm checking now to see if I can find it in external anchors.
     
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    u r right..
     
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