Bruce Clay (google guru) says - 200 PR2's are equal to 1 PR5 - DO YOU AGREE?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by justnaturally, Mar 9, 2008.

  1. #1
    Yes, my friend spent 2K to go to bruce clays SEO school.

    While I know its in Bruce Clay's interest to protect google, do you believe him when he says... 200 PR2's are equal to one PR5.

    ME? I SAY NO WAY BRUCE CLAY

    I CALL BULL#$%^

    What do you guys think? Anyone have any real time facts to support to endorse Mr. Clay's theroy.

    Thanks
     
    justnaturally, Mar 9, 2008 IP
  2. redgsr

    redgsr Well-Known Member

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    Unless Bruce works or has worked for the "inner circle" of Google he has no clue.
     
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  3. Jaysonnhs

    Jaysonnhs Active Member

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    I don't necessarily have any real time facts but I can assure you that 200 relevant PR2 links are more valuable that 1 unrelated PR5 link. I can also assure you that 200 related PR2 links with 10 outgoing links on the page are more valuable than 1 relevant PR5 link with 200 outgoing links on the page.

    and IMO - yes 200 PR2 links would be more valuable than 1 PR5 link (given everything is equal) - 200 would establish your website as an industry hub -

    I don't believe him when he says "200 PR 2s are equal to 1 PR 5", because I would say they're worth more.

    just my opinion though
     
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  4. marshalseo

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    My words are also same as Jaysonnhs's.
     
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  5. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    The jump from one PR up to the next is thought to be exponential, not linear. If that is the case, it's not at all improbable that one PR5 link could equal 200 PR2's — other facts such as relevance, the number of outgoing links on the page, etc., being equal.
     
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    Give me 200 relevant PR2 links any day (no disrespect to Bruce)
     
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  8. Dan Schulz

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    Also don't forget the long-term impact of those 200 PR2 links either. Assuming they're all from related pages on external sites (ie: not your sites) and not some link dumping ground (like a drive-by directory that's here today and gone tomorrow) with quality relevant content, as those sites mature, age and attract more (and better) quality relevant links, the PR they channel back to your pages is likely to increase as well.

    Which is yet another reason why I tell people that SEO is a long-term investment, not a get-rich quick scheme. Once again the old maxim "Patience is a virtue." rings loud and true. :cool:
     
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    There are many more factors to consider about each and every one of those pr2 links. If all of them had the same anchor text and same ip and each site had over 100 external links and each domain was only 2 months old, then collectively would not be worth very much at all. If this was the case, I would much rather have the pr5 backlink.

    Col :)
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    Further to what Col said, what Bruce Clay fails to understand is not all PR5's or PR2's are equal.

    There's a large "gap" between a weak PR5 and a strong PR5. For instance i've had a single page site that's PR5, and added 1 link to a subpage and it sent the subpage PR5 so the homepage was quite strong (nearly a PR6). Another situation the same, the subpage only went PR3 meaning the PR5 homepage was weak (nearly a PR4).

    Same scenario as the 200 x PR2's, the difference is multiplied by 200 so there's a considerable difference between 200 weak PR2's and 200 strong PR2's.

    Not to mention PR is not accurate, i've got a PR2 domain that has 2xPR8 and 9xPR7 backlinks... The domain will most likely go PR6 or 7 but how can you say links from 200 sites like this is only equal to a single PR5?

    Pretty bad info, especially when your paying $2,000 for it.
     
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    I believe on bruce clay theory... PR algo really works that way.
     
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    I cannot believe Bruce Clay said that. Personally, I would want 200 PR2 links.

    Also, for the future, these PR2 usually grow into atleast PR4. That's the other advantage...
     
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  13. Jaysonnhs

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    NICE!!! - great points
     
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    200 PR2 Links will increase your link popularity in 200 sites and will provide you the greater benefit if they are from the relevant categories. This option is far far better than one pr5 link even if pr2 sites have equal number of outgoing links.
     
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    I'd take 1 PR6 link (related) over the 200 PR2 links, as far as rank goes.. makes a world of difference, in my highly comptetive industry, these small things make a huge difference. But, if those 200 links provided traffic.. well that just might sway me in the other direction..
     
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    Cool Mate

    It's all depend of various factor but listen if all the factors of both the PR5 and PR2 Urls are same then definitely who ever said this is completely false.

    Just ask him to show proof and give practicle example unless never believe on anyone who says anything about seo because seo is not assumption base industry it is totally output base.

    So find new techniques, analyse them, implement them , get output and then say whatever you want to say

    Thanks friends
     
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    i am not agree with Bruce Clay because 200 PR2 is also major role in SERP, against 1 PR5.
     
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    I would take the 200 PR2's any day

    If fact if anyone would like to trade me even 50 PR2 links for a link from my PR5 site, I will be ver happy ;)
     
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