Hw do i improve my chances to get in Dmoz?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by kobi64, Mar 2, 2008.

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  1. #1
    hi guys
    Just wondering are there any steps i should take
    to improve my chances of getting accepted by Dmoz?

    thanks
    Kobi64:D
     
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  2. budalata

    budalata Peon

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  3. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Prayer works for some people. Luck works for others. It all falls down the to whims and wiles of the editor that happens across it in the queue.

    If you feel your site is ready, then submit it, then forget about it... alternatively, you can forget to submit, as the odds are seemingly the same that it'll get listed in a like amount of time.

    Though again, prayer and/or luck, combined with a little unique content is the key to getting listed...
    Q
     
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    Well said :)
     
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  5. mediahost

    mediahost Active Member

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    I say it is just make it look like your an authority on the subject that you submit to. Plus don't get to complicated with your description.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    With the number of Geocities pages listed looking like an authority site is far from mandatory. Also, complicated descriptions are not against anything... though it may be wise to check out the past pasterns of existing descriptions within the category. Then again, picking the correct category trumps any description...
     
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    this is better than what's on the tube tonight
     
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    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #8
    There have been a number of things suggested over the years in this forum but of course these things may or may not help.

    1. Before choosing a category to submit to make sure you check the last updated date at the bottom and consider submitting to the one that was updated most recently.
    2. Apply to be editor in a few categories that your site could be listed in including your regional category.
    3. Find a good category and a regional category and submit to both.

    Again, search this forum for more clever ideas.
     
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    Have unique and useful content
     
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    SEOBusiness Well-Known Member

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    I think the best way to get your site be listed is to make yourselves to be an editor.You apply for being an aditor,once you are an editor you can list your site by yourselves.
     
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    thenetfool Active Member

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    Heheh, I think this is the sole reason that some people become an editor :D
     
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    Yes and I think that is why some listings don't get listed b/c they dont want competition
     
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    Those who try that sort of thing become non-editors rather quickly.
     
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    Not unless your site belonged in the category you had permission to edit in, and your site qualified to be in the Directory.

    Of course it is, or at least part of the reason, and though you may start out with selfish motives, once you become one and actually see what it's all about, your interests become a little less self centered and more community minded. Either that, or you list your one site and time out because you never do another edit.

    As selfish as that is, if your site qualified, the Directory would have grown by one site and be better than it was, and though your contribution was perhaps miniscule in it's efforts, it was still a legitimate contribution, and no one really has a right to complain about what you've given of your time.

    The important thing is that you've given some of your time and made the Directory a little better.

    If you really believe that, you're an idiot, and you're probably extropulating what you, yourself, would do if you were an editor.

    New editors are limited to one very small category, and there is a permanent record of every edit any editor ever does, so it would be very easy to catch a corrupt one like yourself. One abuse allegation would launch an investigation and if true, end your career quickly. (as well as what you've done, what gets deleted, can also be readded, and vice versa)

    Think about this. There are 6,000 editors, each and every one of them can investigate suspected abuse, or run across it by accident, and report it.

    No editor has exclusive rights to any category. The Directory is like a bee hive, editors with higher editing permissions can visit any category beneath them, at any time, for any reason, and they have very experienced eyes that can spot things very quickly.
     
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    Maybe not. He could be basing it on the mindset of the general public, which in turn bases it on personal experience when submitting. As there is no way to know for sure, when a site sits in a cat's queue for years or has been secretly rejected when many competing sites have already listed... that leaves only speculation. Besides, not getting a listing for a listable site because an editor is a competitor makes a lot of sense on many levels, so for many it can and is the logical conclusion...

    And for the record it's not nice to call people idiots.
     
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    Youre very naive prybar... but I do have some land in Florida I will sell you real cheap...
     
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    Thanks for the tips, now I need to apply it.
     
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    I'm also an ex editor of 6 years, which of us do you think has the most information, :).
     
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    As the guidelines are just guidelines, and as each editor views them in a different light, it's really hard to tell who knows more. A long time editor, or an average joe that has not even read them.

    Though, whether you are naive or not is a matter of opinion. I tend to think you are a pretty helpful fellow around here, so I'd think that you have a pretty good idea of what the average editor feels about inclusion or exclusion.

    However, in most instances of whether or not a site gets added is less about corruption, payments, competition, or whatever, and has more to do with there being 600,000 and only 6,000 editors to contribute to them. Though those numbers are not common knowledge, as if you look on DMOZ itself, then it looks like there is 79,249 editors which, in a way, does lend it's hand to the thoughts and theories behind the speculation of corruption. With 79,249 editors it does look like the place should move a bit faster then it does...

    So while I do not want to put words in Joel1's mouth, it does, from the outside, it does look like there may be deeper troubles then there really are.
     
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  20. crowbar

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    It's extremely misleading, and should be corrected. I don't really see the purpose of stating the total number of people who have ever been editors, but it does show how many people have come and gone over the years.

    Of course, a lot of them, like myself, leave for RL issues, and end up rejoining, so that number isn't all that accurate either. I think I've left and come back 3 or 4 times, and I may come back again someday, if they'll accept me, but it won't be for quite awhile.

    People really don't understand what we do as editors, though we've tried to explain. It certainly is nothing like being an editor of a newspaper, it's not that big of a deal really, the name is misleading. No power mad scenarios, just on the job training and a lot of learning to do.

    Becoming an editor means you're starting out in kindergarten (editing wise) and it's really up to you as far as how far you want to educate yourself. There's no parent there to force you, it's completely up to you.

    But, when you get a kindergartener acting and talking like they're in college, without having educated themselves, then you have misunderstandings and arguements. Metas are college graduates. I'd put myself down at the high school level. I know a lot, but certainly not as much as a meta/college grad knows, and respect metas for their knowledge.

    Not to do so, would seem pretty foolish, and disrespectfull of the position, simple as that.

    No editor is perfect, not even metas, but they're certainly more perfect than myself in their knowledge and experience, and that deserves respect, in my own opinion. It isn't kissing ass, it's an earned respect.

    The whole editing community is made up of people who are at different grade levels, and those with more knowledge and experience help those of us that are in the lower grades, as we also try to help each other and those who are new to editing.

    That's really what it's like to be an editor.
     
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