I struggled on whether or not I should post this. I know it will make some people angry and I am sorry for that. I just can't read another post that blames clickbank for sales being down. If you are not getting sales, It is not clickbank. If your traffic is down, It is not clickbank. If your conversion rates are down, it is not clickbank. Yes I know, It is Zango, affiliate id thieves, clickbank is down, etc. I think if people would take some personal accountability and spend the same amount of energy working on their campaigns as they do finding someone (clickbank) to blame that they could increase their sales. Are there strange things that happen from time to time? Of course there is. It is either a coincidence or it is such a small percentage that it would never make a noticeable difference. Ok. Let the bashing begin. lol. I hope this doesn't anger anyone who has blamed clickbank in the past (I have as well). It is meant to inspire those people to get beyond the excuses and work on the solutions.
There are some *problems* with Clickbank FOR SURE. Many people have reported different issues, including that hoplinks sometimes don't work or payment page doesn't load, etc....
i have clicked on someones link and it went to affiliate = none when obviously there was an ID with it. I have been making sales... but who knows how many I could have
Yes, this is a very healthy way of looking at it because this frame of mind will make you always improve your process. I always assume that it is my fault. EVERYTHING is my fault. And I make a mental note about it and change variables the next time. So yeah, I believe that every newbie should read this topic.
+rep for this post. While I'm sure there are small, occasional problems from time to time, I think a lot of people like to blame Clickbank instead of taking responsibility and trying to change their marketing techniques.
You are right. Here is the way I look at it. My affiliate marketing business is exactly that. A business. In the real world, I manage electronic retail stores. Everyday people try to steal. They steal Ink, hard drives and yes even computers. It is the price of doing business. We attack specific issues (like if your affiliate id isn't carrying through) but we can never completely stop the problem. I am glad we are aware and I think it is even important to investigate. However, this forum has become a "whats wrong with clickbank" forum. I just think people are too quick to pull the clickbank trigger because of some real issues that some people have encountered. Maybe there should be a "Clickbank Complaint" subforum or sticky.
I too have not posted anything because everyone thinks its clickbank's, but my sales have been the same since november, I think people like to blame someone else.
out of ALL the topics about clickbank. the only one that concerns me is where somebody was making 800+ per day for a while then nother for a couple of days. I dont think I saw screen shots of this tho so who knows.
Swerd And there was another one, when the guy was making $5k-6k a day, then he sales suddenly dropped to $2k-3k.... Normal fluctuation ? I don't think so...
+ rep for this post, and I wholeheartedly agree. BTW, Zango is an extremely MINOR cause of sales theft. I track all my affiliates' sales, and 99% of them come from affiliates that I can track to PPC or organic traffic through my traffic analytics tracker.
This is by far one of the great threads about "CB Problems"... If you are not making money - obviously you are doing something wrong and guess who's to blame? If a techniques fails, try another one. PPC is great and stuff, but why not try SEO and some bumming? Yes it takes times - but it could be so much profitable in the long run. Alex
I've noticed a lot of up and down days with CB... most recently down because CB + Adwords slap... But also at least half of my sales come from organic.. I'm expecting 1-2 sales if I'm lucky today...
Obviously a false logic, smart boy. You don't know how Zango works and how Zango makes money out of other CB affliates. Of course, they're also affiliates of CB (of thousands of products and hundreds of IDs), how can you tell one affliate from another? Of course, they're in one of many affliates of the 99% you're talking about. Do you think Zango would put Zango as the affiliate name? Think it twice...
I actually saw an Id the other day with a TID Zango... I wonder if we report these ids will CB do anything about it?
I fully understand that commision-stealing spyware is associated to specifc CB accounts, but what you're overlooking is that those CB accounts also use unique CB nicknames which I can see in my CB stats and then track using my sales page's traffic analytics. Therefore, if the CB nickname of my affiliates' sales can be traced to the url from a specific landing page, article, PPC ad, etc, then clearly it's not affiliate theft. I can go down my list of affiliate sales and point to each affiliate nickname, and then track which specific ad or article generated that sale using tracking software. I have yet to have an affiliate nickname appear with any frequency that I am unable to track. Are you claiming that Zango has cracked CB's system and can actually capture credit for sales without using CB nicknames and without their affiliate IDs appearing in my affiliate column? I doubt it! I'm not denying Zango may steal CB comissions, but if the sales for my product are representative of CB sales overall, the problem isn't nearly as pervasive as many fear.
It was probably a clickbank affiliate advertising through Zango, and using Zango in the tid so he knows which sales come from his Zango advertising efforts. falafelfro, It would be interesting to see what would happen if you downloaded the Zango software yourself, and then go through some of your affiliates links and see if you get the Zango popup. Then see how it tracks with your system and if your tracking shows the correct affiliate id or the one from Zango. Not saying they are or are not a big issue, but could it maybe be possible that your tracking system is not working the way you think it is with Zango popups? I don't think you would really know for sure unless you actually test it yourself. Or your product may be a type which most visitors wouldn't be likely to have Zango installed. Zango probably gets on most computers from kids playing games or watching videos. One thing I do know for sure, is that Zango is making a LOT of money, and not so sure that all of it is coming from their advertising clients.