jewish school in jerusalem hit by terrorists????

the falestians got new way to defend theyrself from airplains attakes.
israel airforce placing awared before shoting in buildings.
what hamas and falestians DO is TO PLACE LITTLE KIDS ON THE HOUSE ROOFS , THEY USING THEYR ON KIDS AS HUMEN SHIELD.

the only reson Israel Air force is attaking is because all OF THE KASAMS THAT HAMAS SHOT ON SHDEROT AND KILL MANY PPLS EVERY DAY.

Dont talk bollshit if you dont know what your talking about.

Hamas dont care for they'r own peoples...

you can see that when the'r are replaceing hosteges.

1 israeli solider (not sergent or anything , just poor solider) for more the 1000 falestain terorists.

Thats show they'r value for man life (Almost nothing)

 

I'm sure you can show 100s of pictures proving your BS.

 

i dont know about your photos but i can assure you that is the true , coz i seen it in my own eyes

 

It's earth shattering to read the simplicity here. Jews lived in Syria, Iran, Iraq and other Arab countries but you've just ignored this expulsion and that injustice and where these Jews are supposed to go and why they have no rights in Arab lands. Because none of this happened in your lifetime perhaps in your minds it just doesn't exist or mean anything - you just accept it that the Arabs "owned" all of Syria, etc.

With regard to the alarm of the "growing size of Israel" - are you kidding me? Have you looked at a map and understood the borders we are talking about? To begin, the size of the Arab countries in the middle east makes Israel look like a tiny sliver. The amount of land in controversy we are talking about is even less - a few miles and that's it! You can drive across Israel at its widest part in a few hours. Palestinians have the ability to move wherever they want amongst the Arab Nations. Whether these countries want them in their own back yard is another question. The Jews have nowhere to go after their wrongful expulsion and the fact that they believe the wrong religion - there isn't a democracy outside of Israel.

Something disturbing with regard to the Palestinian situation is looking at Arafat and his plan with the PLO. His design was to have his own people multiply at an absurd rate to hopefully create an overabundance of people in the region and damage Israel economically in addition to violence. By keeping the people in a miserable poverty - while he raked in billions in a corrupt government that still exist -they would be united and angry against the common enemy - the Jews.

Now I'm sympathetic to you AG, I really am. If there were hundreds of innocent Palestinians killed for no reason at all, CNN and the New York Times would be all over it in a second. But how can you account for Arafat raping the Palestinian people and not signing the peace treaty years ago? With regard to Palestinian leaders - who wants to stand defiantly up and actually be the one to say Israel must be recognized in order for there to be peace? They'll be gone before you can say the name "Bhutto."

We are not just dealing with Israel v. Palestinians. We are also dealing with numerous other Muslim groups (called "radicals") that none of the Arab countries want to make a concerted effort to exterminate in order to bring some type of peace. It's easier fight against their own people who are "radicals" or just let it ride until the Jews are eventually finally out of the entire region. Did any of you ever wonder where these "poor" militants have the money to create an army capable of endlessly blasting Israel constantly with rockets, terrorist attacks, fight off the Israeli army on the Lebanese border? It's not coming out of thin air. Yes, it's funded by the surrounding Arab countries - the same ones that got rid of the Jews years ago that you've forgotten about because it didn't happen during your lifetime.

So as you can see, the Palestinian v. Israeli conflict is way more than just two groups shaking hands. It's about a much larger interest elsewhere in removing all traces of Jews (and other people) from the territory. Keeping the Palestinian people poor and angry only serves their goals.

 

Unfortunately, open up your mind about these awful human barricades - they are common knowledge to anyone familiar with the situation. Did you ever wonder who brainwashes and trains mothers and children to strap explosives to themselves all in the name of blowing up a couple of dozen Jews? The holocaust is so awful to see (the human experiments, etc.) that we cannot believe people are capable. But what of Darfur? The Rwandan genocides? Horrific.

Make no mistake - not like all Palestinians are like this at all and there are plenty that care about their children and want peace. They hurt and feel just like anyone else. But remember, surrounding this region is a culture that most Americans do not know arrogantly think you can understand without much deeper thought. Amongst the region has existed a centuries old hatred of Jews that exists in the same way that perhaps you can appreciate 9/11... on steroids. Therein lies the problem.

 

although i dont support any faction in palestine (not even abbas) but hamas never showed such an act. An if they did, do you think that the palestinians in gaza would still support them ?? or are the civilians stone-hearted terrorists that dont care about their children ??

Dont just come and throw you BS without supporting it with valid evidence

 

A couple of days ago, a certain arab gulf country (not going to mention which) banned entry of all palestinians that dont hold fully legal documents
note that most if not all of the palestinians of 1948 dont hold any documents except being registered in the UN as palestinians
Americans and europeans treat Jews alot better then they treat arabs right now.. even arabs are treating jews better (I know of 4 jewish professers in my university)
palestinians living in countries like lebanon, jordan or egypt are underpaid, treated like crap and have nowhere to go so they just keep their mouths shut and do whatever they're told.

 

I removed it, its true that this is a place for discussion but what is this ??

Correct me if im wrong, but am i the only one thinks this post is stupid ( poor soldier ???)

read this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3130623.stm

 

well all wise people know israel is a terrorist regime.

why you not use your brain, what kinda humen being can put its child on roof to die by terrist attacks?!

its only one of those not too smart ways by israeli terrorist goverment to defend its illegal actions.

and by the way stop hating ! all humen being are the same.

being an israeli does not make you better than the rest of the world!

 

Total BS! That "they hide behind children" is your excuse why you kill so many innocent people. In last Lebanon war you killed few time more civilians than enemy soldiers and yet failed to reach Litani river which was your goal.
As we look what your army destroyed in that war it was obvious that goal of war was colective punishent and not destorying Hezbollah.
All your actions are simple revenge, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Kill one Israeli and we will kill 100 of you. Israeli officials even don't try to hide that.

 

Actually Danger, you should stop thinking conventionally. Golda Meir said long ago "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." There was a good reason for the statement. BTW, do you know what the word "Hamas" actually means?

No, not all Arabs are like this - of course not. But what do you know about what culture and society is like outside of the mainstream areas? What do you know about what children are taught? Who is training mothers and children to blow up innocent Jews? What do you know about martyrdom and the promises of rewards in the afterlife?

 

we can see who hate them who love

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xI_0US0cu9Q

the proof for people like you .

 

Sorry me for not believeing you lol

 

What WAR was going on when another suicide bomber walked into a school filled with children and opened fire and murdered them in cold blood? So the suicide bomber who walked into a wedding ceremony in Tel Aviv and the other that blew up a civilian beach - just more revenge for 1967 thirty and forty years later. Same excuse and it doesn't wash.

What is your solution for how to deal with expelling the Jews from Syria, Iran, Iraq and the rest of the region many years prior to 1967? Why aren't you furious with Arafat - stealing billions and keeping the people poor and a conflict ongoing?

 

see this >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/5228392.stm
the isreali army doesnt have a good record either.

and what do you call the isreali army giving cover to the christian militia in lebanon so that they could take out as many civilians as they can >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1779713.stm

 

I don't make excuse for suicide bombers and their actions but you do make excuses for Israeli war crimes and as I can see you equal those two things.

Expeling Jews from muslims countries started after you expeled Palestininas from Palestine so when if you allow Palestininas to return to their homes Jews should be allowed to return to those countries.

And why aren't you furious about every single of Israeli government in last 10-15 years that was involved in scandals, financial and others? How about your last ex-president and his scandals with sexual abuse? I don't see you're furious about that.

Ans as for ongoing conflict... As long as you occupy their land I will understand why they are fighting.

 

Israel came into existence in what year? Seems like you don't know your history and yes, I'm sure that Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia expelled the Jews because they knew about the upcoming saga we're talking about. Yep, and Ayatollah K. and Saddam Hussein were ready to welcome the Jews back with open arms. LOL. Excuses, excuses, excuses...

He's not my ex-president and what's your point? That one man was involved in a sexual abuse scandal - as if that has any impact on the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis? Desperately trying to smear anyone you can within reach to make excuses.

And finally, to put an end to this mess, here is an article from the BBC about one of the many "human shields" formed by Hamas, using people as shields to hopefully prevent attacks - as recently as 2006. The terrorists who are responsible for the horrors are sought out and then try to save themselves by putting civilians between themselves and the Israeli army - who aren't getting any help from the likes of you Iggy. Obviously you support these terrorists, the same extremists whose attacks were denounced by Abbas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6162494.stm

Thanks Iggy for reminding me that there are probably better things I can do with my time. I hope and try to remain optimistic that somehow we'll have peace on earth (not just the Middle East), a reasonable health care system for all Americans, and that corporate executives will all be held accountable for their raping the shareholders.

 

where did you get this from ?? Jews in Arab countries were living like any normal respected citizens there till the age of of 1948 where Israel announces its new born country and invade Arab lands and force Palestinian to leave lands by savage force then at 1967 again invade other Arabic lands (Gazza , West al-Diffa , Syria, Egypt , Jordan , ...)

Ok I understand that after the 'World Wide War II' Jews want their own country but why they choose Palestine , if they want to take revenge then do it against Adolf Hitler , why poor Palestinian should pay the price they do nothing to you in WW2 , shame on your logic

true logic , Peoples have the right to fight to get back their lands
United States fight back to get independence from Great Britain at 1776 , it's same thing