Does Google use anything other than backlinks?

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    Does Google use anything other than backlinks to determine a websites rank in a search?
     
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  2. dairyman

    dairyman Notable Member

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    It is the PR of the linking sites that is taken into account while calculating the PR for a particular page.
     
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  3. attick

    attick Peon

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    Okaym that determines the pr.
    If you do a search on Google and the first 10 sites are all pr3, what does Google use to determine listing position?

    I see position changes in a search and I also see sites that haven't changed position in over a year.
     
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    arunkumar2006 Active Member

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    It uses Human behavior too.
     
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  5. MikeBradbury

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    attick, there are two basic factors that influence search engine ranking

    1. Site relevance
    2. Perceived credibility

    A search engine is able to infer relevance by looking at the text that appears in the source code of a particular page's HTML. Where certain words fall within the source of the page can give them more or less weight when scoring for relevance. Internal links affect the ranking of a page as well does the overall theme of the site.

    Credibility is infered by backlinks as you suggest in your first post.
     
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  6. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    the relevance of the links

    "some" say that edu and gov links help as well, but I doubt that
     
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    poshswinger Active Member

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    I heard that before too. It is because the credibility of .edu and .gov sites should be higher.
     
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  8. MikeBradbury

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    It's all about link popularity. .edu and .gov sites just have more of it. Think about it, who is wikipedia linking to when they're talking about a study? Who does the city of Atlanta link to when they're talking about public transit?

    If it was just plain .edu links that would be scary I had a .edu site back in the day, that thing was joke! I had a flash movie of a hamster biting my finger. Why should that page have any more credibility than a .com
     
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    Google does not count any other thing excluding relevant back links while distributing PR of a particular page or website.
     
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  10. attick

    attick Peon

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    So then that's where the leyword density comes in? Text on a site relevant to the keywords, but can the text be diluted? Lets say you have a simple product description as spposed to an article about the subject.

    I always assumed that a site would rank higher if it were more dedicated to a specific topic or catagory of items.

    Lets say a site sells just bowling balls, and another site offers bowling balls, dog food, strollers, etc. Wouldn't the additional offerings dilute the relevance of the site in a bowling call search?
     
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  11. MikeBradbury

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    Depends how you organize the site. Look at wikipedia. Now there's a diverse range of topics, but they interlinks from page to page in such a way to Google and other search engines can clearly map out relevant sections.

    So the pages that the page you want to rank link to also matter, and likewise, the links that point back from other pages on your site matter. If you have one product page, and 3 articles that talk about what that that product does, and those three articles link back to the product, it has a good chance of ranking for that product.

    The other thing to consider is that there isn't just one keyword density. Consider that different piece of the page carry different wieghts. Bolded text may weight more than non-bold, heading may weight more than bold text and the title of the page may weight most of all.

    No one can tell you exactly what the combination of all of the factors will lead to, its just a lot of trial and error. We can point you in a general direction, but you need to experiment.
     
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  12. mhmdkhamis

    mhmdkhamis Well-Known Member

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    domain age ,website design and your content effect too
     
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    sorry mate i had a site with no page rank and it keeps on ranking on page one and rank one for lot of keywords and it is a subdomain too.
     
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    Website design does not have any relation with Page Rank.
    Domain age and content could be the factor,
    But website design will never attracts PR.

     
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    Question: Does Google use anything other than backlinks to determine a websites rank in a search?

    Answer:
    Google SERP depends upon the Factors:

    a) Quality and Unique Content
    b) Back Links From Quality Sites related To Sites Niche
    c) Keywords used in your Site
    d) Age of the Site means old sites are more reliable by search engines
    e) Online visibility of the site

    These are the few points which count on the SERP of the site. Hope this has answered your question.
     
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    Of course google use other elements to determine backlinks. The most important elements are related content, title and anchor text and many more.
     
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    magda Notable Member

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  18. mohaz

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    emm.. so the bottom line one need to grow the site slowly but surely, favorable to human and bot alike, full of unique content and aged properly like a wine huh...

    :D
     
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    baclinks are the major factors.
     
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    Google dont use only PR to determine search placements. Most people believe that PR has nothing to do with search results placements.

    I have seem many PR0 sites out ranking PR4 or PR5 sites. One of my sites are PR2, and the site on top of main keyword for my site is a PR0 where my site is on the last page.

    Google love fresh content, google like backlinks,

    relevant content + relevant backlinks = High search results placements
     
    angilina, Mar 7, 2008 IP