My ex-friend made $400 a day with Adsense - Need help analyzing his website

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    Hi all,
    My name is Winston. I had an ex-friend named Stefan whom I worked for too. He had two businesses, an online medical self diagnosis site called Diagnose-Me.com and 3000 pages of medical web pages under that domain filled with Google Ads from which he earned around $400 a day! I personally saw his Adsense report on his computer screen, and it really did show earnings of around $400 each day. I was amazed and inspired by that and that's how I got into pay per click advertising.

    He was a genius in computer programming, but had a horrible personality and people skills. Eventually, after we went to the Philippines together, he turned into my enemy for no reason other than that he just decided to despise me. Each day he got more and more evil and nasty to the point where I couldn't stand being around him anymore. Like Annakin Skywalker did in Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, he turned to the "dark side" suddenly. It was out of my control. I never did anything wrong to him. He also had horrible communication skills, so often I couldn't even understand what he was saying.

    Anyhow, now that we aren't friends anymore, he won't share anymore of his secrets with me. So I'm left to try to figure out myself how he managed to make $400 a day from Adsense. So I came here to try to find some experts in this forum who might be able to help me figure out what he did and how he did it. Perhaps it will benefit all of us here, who knows?

    Anyway, here is what I do know:

    He told me he has around 3000 web pages under his www.diagnose-me.com domain name filled with medical terms and conditions. I think he did a little plaigarism in copying all the medical data from other sources and rewording a few sentences, because I've seen the same paragraphs on his webpages as on other sites. He told me that since his webpages are medical related, that his google ads are mostly from pharmaceutical companies, which pay the highest per click. And somehow he tuned his site to rank high on search engines. His site www.diagnose-me.com is ranked with the top 100,000 websites according to Alexa.

    But I have no idea how he gets so much traffic to his webpages, especially since they aren't even linked to his main domain page at www.diagnose-me.com. That is unanswered.

    I'll show you a direct example of one of his medical webpages that he makes $400 a day from:

    http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C147463.html


    That one is about hemorrhoids. You can find others by simply going to Google and typing in diagnose-me + (any medical term or condition) and one of his relevant pages from his site will come up. Try it out.

    Anyhow, that's basically what I know. Can you folks help me figure out how he makes so much, by analyzing his site and google ads? Maybe all of us could put our heads together and figure it out and learn something.

    Thanks,
    Winston
     
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  2. chris265

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    he makes that much money because the ads cost more for medical terms. Some terms pay high like loans and mortages but it is hard to get sites listed high in search results.


    You can find high paying keywords but you still have to get site ranked high in search engines. your better off trying to find some terms that have less sites listed so you make money faster.
     
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    I see, your ex-friend made $400 per day but how much did he spend for that? He gets money from people who advertise their health related site but don't forget that your friend's website is also about health so he needs to pay a lot of money to get traffic.
     
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    BTW, if you are curious to find out more about this guy Stefan and who he is and how we became enemies, I've created a webpage about him on my site at http://www.happierabroad.com/Stefan_Muth_Diagnose-Me.htm

    It was created in response to his new website attacking me, which he put up, at http://www.winston-wu.com

    And he put up a profile and personal ad here:

    http://www.theoneforyou.com/seeking

    But I guess he took it down.

    So I guess we are now both enemies who created webpages to attack each other. lol

    He loses to me in every category except making money though.
     
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  5. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    W: So can we just use a program to copy large amounts of medical data and put them on a site with Adsense and just let it sit there and make lots of money?

    I don't get how he gets so much traffic though. What did he do to get that exactly?

    Still, $400 a day is a lot! If I had that much income, I'd retire and just enjoy life and travel the world, but he still works 16 hours a day and never goes out to have fun, cause he's a workaholic who feels empty without working.
     
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    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    W: Wokaka, that's a good point and question. He recently admitted that he was an advertiser on adsense as well. But long ago when we first met he told me that he was not an advertiser on adsense and that he didn't think it would be profitable to be one. But I think he advertises his medical self-diagnosis site on adsense though. So it still remains unanswered as to how he gets the traffic to his 3000 pages of medical terms.

    I would presume that he spends a lot advertising on adsense though. Is there any way to check on adsense's advertising site whether he is an advertiser? Can you keyword his site "diagnose-me.com" to see if it comes up under adwords? Is there a way?
     
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    even if your friends copy the content, it still looks good and people love to some to his sites. great content what he had in there.

    so stay focus and develop your sites to earn like what he earn
     
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    a metal baseball bat wack really good... you know that dont you??? thats what i would do to my enemies if they live close to me... rather then posting in a forum about personal disputes...
     
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  9. Eurofile007

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    W: He went back to Hawaii. I still live here in the Philippines. When we lived near each other after I moved out, he still bullied me and made threats. I had to call the police captain one time because I thought he was going to bribe people to get me into trouble. It turned out he was on a power trip.

    Though he's a genius with computers, he has an emotional intelligence below that of most children I know.

    He also has a zero tolerance for risk and controls every little detail in his life VERY tightly.
     
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    all i can say is good luck to you, you will learn a lot here, and $400 can be your long term goal, but its not oging to happen overnight, sounds like he has more skills than you, and that is an advantage to him before you even start.
     
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    if nothing else, this thread has inspired me to make websites about all my "crazy ex's".

    Maybe I can serve ads on them!
     
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    lmao you two grown men are arguing through the internet. He even put nude pics of you on his site.

    WOW
     
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    I think this is a little bit childish.
    We dont need the story about how you two are enemies now, and we dont need links to naked pictures of you (albeit, you didnt provide the link to that specifically)

    The fact of the matter is, you want to know how to succeed with PPC advertisements. Save your story and just ask the questions you need to ask.
     
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  14. JackRipper22

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    That's what I thought as well...

    Btw @ OP... you really need to update your main page because it looks like it came from 1997 or something....:eek: Don't mean to be straightforward like that but I think if you edit it a lil better you might get better traffic, considering your niche.

    The pages are waaay too long and if I was potentially interested in your niche, I would have quickly turned away because of its length and lack of organization. Think less is better when it comes to pix... Pictures should lure the audience in not distract...

    Frankly I don't think anything spectacular about ur friends site however, a few things do stand out.

    • His clever way of incorporating an "opt in" form via the Analyzer
    • Doctors are expensive... nothing like trying to self-help instead of paying a $50 doctors visit just to be told something you could have found out yourself... ie good target niche
    • His dedication... 16hrs a day (although excessively crazy as it seems) gives him tons of experience advantage...

    Looking at ur site, you have a high chance of getting more traffic there and there are a slew of things you could adsense, cj, amazon, ebay, etc...

    Although I don't necessarily agree w/ your lifestyle... I know of many local people who speak of it all the time.

    Anyway goodluck,

    -JR
     
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    Interesting, but don't put Adsense on porn pages. :)

    Anyway, to answer your question...

    3000 pages chock full of rich keywords. That's a large site, and provides a lot of keywords to rank for. He may not get ranked well for short tailed keywords, but the long tailed keywords probably bring him a fair amount of traffic.

    His site is a respectable PR4. Not bad, and that will help him some with Google.

    He has a squeeze page as well to capture those E-mail addys and provides diagnosis via E-mail after a doctor looks things over. Interesting. If this is true, viral marketing would kick in because getting a doctor to review symptoms via E-mail is not something very common.

    Sounds like a good gig he has going...
     
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    I don't think a "doctor" actually sends the msg via email... I think the Analyzer is just a programmed algorithym (sp?) to point to the possible diagnosis via email. There are no sites online that could provide any kind of diagnosis legally... Like I said in my previous quote, this is a clever way of opting-in and narrowing down on his targets.

    -jr
     
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    I don't think the doctor sends the E-mail or reviews the submissions either. But he does claim to offer the review. This probably has little to do with his adsense earnings. It's all those medical definitions and terminology that's making him money. I do something similar in a different niche where clicks pay $1.80+.
     
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    W: Hi JackRipper22, are you referring to my site at www.happierabroad.com? If so, then I've done the best I can. I am an amateur at web design and only know how to insert pictures and links. What specifically do you think should be changed? Isn't the navigation menu good enough?

    Most people come to my site either by word of mouth or search engine.

    W: That makes sense. I wonder how he gets all that traffic though, since his 3000 pages of medical pages are not even linked to his main domain page.

    If I wanted to try to duplicate what he's done, how do you think I could do that?

    W: How would I get more traffic? Actually, I've been banned from Adsense, or else I would use it. I am using amazon widgets though, as well as adbrite and bidvertiser.

    Can you check out the ad placement of my forum and let me know what you think too? http://www.happierabroad.com/phpBB2/index.php

    If you know people who like my lifestyle, can you refer them to my site?

    Thanks,
    W
     
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    W: Hehehe I have no porn pictures on my site. What is a PR4? And what is a squeeze page? How is he capturing email addresses, I don't get what that means.

    I think he is on very thin line here since this is new and he is not a qualified doctor himself.
     
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    W: He claimed that his medical diagnosis site earns him $300 or $400 a day too, in addition to his $400 a day Adsense earnings. I don't know why so many people on a regular daily basis would pay for that thing. Or where he gets the traffic. I think he did say he was an advertiser on adsense too.

    There are so many schemes that work perfectly in theory but don't work when done in reality. He somehow found something that worked.
     
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