Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Autobiography of Mark Twain
Dude, Of course i do. Heres the thing, if 85 percent of Americans are Christians, and only 15 percent are atheist. The percentage of Christians will be higher no matter where they are, it will be hire at the grocery store, or the bowling alley. There are a lot more people that believe in God, that those that don't. you cant use a Christian/atheist ratio in prison to determine any accurate results. Sure there are more Christians in prison, but thats only because there are more Christians period
i think the point they are tryint to make is that while the general population is split 85% to 15% for example the split in prison is closer to 98% to 2% this is doubtless down to the link between lower iq's and criminality along with belief in god. it has already been proven that the lower the average IQ rthe more people believe in a higher power. not surprising really
lol i love the way that religious people are willing to spout such stupid crap yet anytime they are faced with the truth they either resort to violence or ignorance. which are truly the foundations of all religious beliefs.
There is also the issue that many men who go to prison, seek god while they are there. Obviously that has not been accounted for though.
It's not a case of there being more Christians in prison you clown. Read up on how percentages work. 75% of America is christian. 75% of the prison population is christian. 15% of America is atheist. 0.2% of the prison population is atheist. Are you seriously having trouble comprehending what this means? It's like teaching special ED in this forum. How much time do we have to waste explaining simple concepts to the religious?
I never resort to violence. I tried very hard to talk (discuss) with stOx. However, it was a one way conversation and always will be. He must have a HUGE arm to be able to carry that HUGE brush he tars all religious organisations with. I put him on ignore because I was sick and tired of the barrage of inaccurate statements he made about me and the organisation I am in. I simply could not see the point of continuing on. I just pushed the "off" button to ignore his comments. Of which I have the right to do so. I try my hardest to not put people down. stOx behaves in the opposite manner and is relentless in doing exactly that. So, here's the real question: Who is the more ignorant? Me, for giving stOx as much opportunity to have a polite and respectful conversation about spiritual things and science and putting him on ignore because he refuses to converse this way? Or stOx for ignoring repeated requests to discuss things in a decent fashion without vehemently attempting to put others down?
It's what all cowards do when they are wrong turbosatan. They put their fingers in their ears and run away. ironically cheap SEO services cowardice has proved my point in a far more compelling way than discussion with him ever could. I see his cowardice as a victory for rational thought. The pathetic thing about is is that he still reads my posts, Just like he is reading this one right now. But pretending he isn't gives him an excuse to hide and avoid answering questions about his childish belief and his filthy "organisation".
You support Rational thought, right ? How does demeaning somebody and calling them cowards or clowns advance rational thought ? You could be more reasonable in your discussions. It is childish and easy as anything to insult others intelligence and abilities.All humans have their faults.
It's perfectly reasonable and rational to call someone a coward or a clown if they are actually a coward or a clown. Don't forget we are talking about people, Grown men, Who didn't know how percentages work and were so intellectually inadequate that their only possible defence was to ignore anyone who refutes what they say.
Percent means "out of 100", i know what it means, i know how it works, and i got your point, that doesn't change that in reality there are naturally going to be more Christians anywhere, due to the minority that atheist such as yourself, belong to. I understand your comparison to the percentage that are not imprisoned. Overall its still a statistic, which is basically an educated assumption, when used the way your trying to use it. Its one thing to be, not as intelligent as another, but its an even worse thing to be close minded all together.
Weren't you arguing that you are morally superior and more righteous? or have you abandoned that now and decided to play the victim after i dismantled every facile point you made? this is so typical of the christians on this forum. They start off by telling a blatant lie hoping that others will be as misinformed as they are and when someone pulls them up on it using statistical facts that show the exact opposite they start crying about being victimised. Grow a spine.
again....It's nothing to do with the AMOUNT of christians because we are using a percentage. It's proportions we are talking about. There are proportionally far less atheists in prison that in the general population yet there are proportionally the same amount of christians in prison as there are in the general population. 75% of America is christian. 75% of prison inmates are christian. 15% of America is atheist. 0.2% of the prison population is atheist. A statistic is not an educated assumption. There is no assumption made at any point. A statistic is an analysis of data. Which one are you?
Well stox, maybe you don't want many friends around these parts. We have to see christians and opposing religions as human beings too, and not colour our opinion on basis of religion. We must be able to argue and point out flaws effectively, while not hurting basic human sensibilities.
I believe i said "in the end" we would be righteous, as humans walking the earth we are sinners, but we are also sinners that feel convicted when sinning, a sign of Christianity is to feel bad for a sin. A true Christian hates the sins that he once loved. We feel bad when we cuss, we are convicted when we break a sin. We want to be righteous, and we seek it, but we all fall short to the glory of god. And like i said earlier. You are not taking into consideration how many prisoners are becoming Christians in prison. 8 out of 10 men find Christ in prison. So the majority of prisoners weren't even Christians when they were sent to jail. This fact will definatly change the results a lot.
Do you have anything to back up the claim that "8 out of 10" men find christ in prison? Or is it another random lie pulled directly out of your arse? If eight out of ten men convert to christianity while in prison that would mean, Even if all of them were atheists going in to prison, That 80% of the prison population are christian. So even in the unlikely event that only atheists go to prison your "stat" is still patently untrue and an obvious lie as christians make up 75%. numbers really aren't your strong point. stick to reading fairy stories and leave thinking to the grown-ups. You are seriously out of your depth here.
There is no true faith so this is not possible. If they had the believable evidence to back their 'true faith' up then yes I would respect them, I believe in evidence. Something science has and religion doesn't even though theists would like to believe it did.