Amateur Nudes?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Chewy954, Mar 4, 2008.

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    I just bought www.AmaFap.com and thought after... is it illegal to host amateur nude photos/videos? Mainly will be nude Amateur photos, like self taken ones...

    so is this legal?
     
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    bobchrist Active Member

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    To get proper suggestion, I think you should also visit few adult forums like netpond.com/cozyfrog.com
     
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    Chewy954 Active Member

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    what suggestion? just want to know if its legal
     
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    May have had a better first response if you had put this in the adult section of DP, although it is a little hidden!

    There are legal issues you may have to deal with, the first is the 2257 statement, this applies to you if your website is being used by Americans, if it is hosted in the united states or if you yourself are based in the US.

    Untill recently it was legal to host images that were uploaded by the user as long as they agreed the images were theres, featured themselves, or had permission from the person in the photo. The 2257 documents were mainly for profesional content.

    However, as mentioned before, recently the rules changed, and are still changing. The 2257 documents are now required for all nudity, pictured or video'd. A prime example of this would be YouPorn.com. If you look at their upload page, it now clearly states that if you do not have the 2257 documents you must select a link stopping your uploaded content being displayed to anyone in the geo-location of north america.

    As yet other continents and countries dont have a similar 2257 system and images can still be viewed, uploaded etc legally in those area's, the trouble comes in the US.

    If your going to dabble with content that you diddnt produce, dont have the rights for and dont have the documentation to prove the models are over 18 years old, you really should move out of the US, have a server in europe or move into producing content yourself and make sure you have the documents.

    Bare in mind, producing the content yourself and running a few paysites will be far more profiable for you than any 2 bit amateur image website.

    I hope that helps a little, if there is anyone else around who wants to add anything please do, i know Barefootsies produces adult content so he will be a man to talk to regarding the new changes regarding the 2257 law.
     
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    Chewy954 Active Member

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    well my hosting is Canadian and I myself am in the US...

    And the pictures I have as of right now are just gathered photos from across the web that has been uploaded by the person in the picture, so that's not allowed unless they actually themselves upload it?

    So my best bet though would be say, canadian hosting, get someone in canada to technically pay for the servers and I operate the site? Would that be a possible loophole? And I myself, am not even 18 so producing said content wouldn't be exactly legal either so the site wouldv'e been in my dads name or something along those lines..
     
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    Good advice Carlx :)

    ...my two cents worth:

    Before you get too far down the line make sure that you've got all the bases covered. Check out the cozyfrog advice section - they have a link on there to a lawyer that offers a course on how to set up a legal adult website. It's costs money but I think it will pay dividends in the end.

    Good luck,

    Cheers, p.
     
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  7. Chewy954

    Chewy954 Active Member

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    is it legal in canada?

    I'm not trying to get some extensive for the most part... Just something that I can put pictures up, a warning on the front page saying if you are not of the age of consent to leave, and thats all ;x
     
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    I do not know the laws of either the US or Canada as i am based in the UK with a server in Germany. However the advice given by pondife may be valid, seek the advice of a lawyer, i contacted one before who deals with adult related laws, and managed to get the advice i needed without paying him, so just word your email in a fashion that will draw out the response you need without him charging you an arm and a leg!.

    Obviously to get deeper into it your going to require a real legal presence.

    I think having the hosting in Canada should be fine, but please dont take my word on it, i know laws for neither the US nor Canada, i can only advise on what little information i know.

    As to content that has been published across the internet, while you may argue the fact that the contant has been uploaded by the person in the picture, you cant be sure, and i am quite sure the sites where the image was first uploaded never got them to agree to owning 2257 documents. - so you cant really fight it on that basis.

    Just be prepared to remove images that get reported, remove ones that you yourself think the model's age is in question, and just try to think smart, and if possible stay legal.
     
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    I think your looking for an "it's OK do it" but the sad truth is. In court when YOU are stand in front of a judge, we're not going to get in trouble for telling you what to do.
    That's why these people have told you 3 times, get a lawyer to tell you what to do. They are really being nice to tell you this.
     
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    I wouldnt know where to start though, I'm trying still though.

    I was thiking of something along the lines of jj.am, thought it was legal so I went ahead and bought the domain :|
     
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    Never put pictures of others online without their permission. Setting an adult site up is probably already a pain with all the laws you have to watch out for. If you also add nude picture of people without written permission you could get in extreme trouble.
     
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    It really is your call, to stop work on the site could be done, or you could take the risk on developing the site, give it 6 months and sell it on.

    It's a risk your going to have to weigh up, decide yourself.

    At the end of the day all we can do is advise.

     
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    Did you know that your site is on the list for known spyware?:confused:
     
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    Really?? I just bought it...

    where did u get this list?
     
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    From my spyware program!
     
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    uhhh, site is even up yet, I think u need a new spyware detector..
     
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    Well, putting up a warning page on the website is the easy part. As with using anyone's photos, you will require explicitly permissions and consent from the models and photographers. It does not matter if they posted their pictures somewhere else, they would have granted permission for use on that site but may not grant you permission to host it on yours. This could lead to some very sticky issue for you.
     
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    Silly question: why don't you just join a porn company and host there work like 98% of other porn sites do? You'll make more money and have 0% headaches. If something is messed up they get in trouble not you. Because your not hosting the work.
     
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    Every site that is based in the US, Servers Are in the US OR The person resides in the US must have the necessary documents on location including name of the model, and a picture id proving there age.

    Further more if your not even 18 then your lega;y not even allowed to look at the images no less provide them for others.
     
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    I was thinking this after, me a 'mirror' site with added features for say jj.am?

    Would that be allowed?

    And technically I wouldnt own the domain, a family member would.
     
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