Israel offensive on Gaza that has killed more than 100 Palestinians

Leading article: Only a new President can end Gaza's nightmare

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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...president-can-end-gazas-nightmare-790494.html

 

I think we both know the answer to that one buddy.

 

It's the other way around. muslims are still occupying parts of Israel's lands. Israel was Israel before islam was invented.

But then we all know hamas (a terrorist organization) isn't going to stop violence for any reason. That would be unislamic. They are simply following the quran.

 

A short while ago citizens of Gaza blew up the wall separating Egypt and Gaza. Approximately 200-250,000 Gazans crossed the border into Egypt. Egypt has been slow to fix this problem.

Subsenquent to that, Gazans are now firing larger missles with a greater distance into Israel.

Where do these missles come from? If the governments of the Islamic nations of the middle east at some point in history had wanted to solve the problem of palestinians a peace would have been established 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. In all cases it is easier and better for the despotic tyrannical govts of the middle east to have this "problem" exist so they can twist the unhappiness of their own populations toward hating Israel.

If Egypt had quickly resecured its border Hamas would not have these larger weapons.

For all those that think that Israel is inappropriate read the daily reports of missles landing in Israel from Gaza. Does Israel respond every time? No it shows restraint.

But restraint doesn't stop Hamas or any terrrorists in the past.

For those that don't believe Israel should respond....I would like you to take the same attitude if I punched you in the face every day, harder and harder.

Remember....you can't respond at least in your own view.

The same attitude of restraint then response occurred during the last Intifada. Terrorists would attack, send suicide bombers into Israel and Israel would show restraint then finally reattack.

Most of the sponsorship of these terrorists and Hezbollah to the North comes from iran with Syria a secondary source. Both nations are tyrannies that abuse their population. Both find it advantageous to have an enemy in Israel to take their population's minds away from their own abuse.

Get the arab nations to aggressively back a peace and provide benefits and security to the mass of palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank the 60 years of war would be over.

Not gonna happen in this lifetime though.

 

According to what Jewish religion ? , Are they also following their religion ?
Does their religion gives them right to kill the innocent children of non-jews ?
Th jews have imigrated from the whole world and occupied palestinian teritory.

Year Jews Arabs Total % of Jews to Total
1914 60,000 731,000 791,000 7.585%

They may need a land cause they have been prescuted for ages (500 years ago from Spain , the Ottoman empire accepted them (muslims) , 1940-1946 from Europe etc) but the solution can not be occupying others land.This will only grow the anger to them again and again.

 

The reason Palestinian children die in actions like this is the fault of the Palestinians.



When the Palestinians love their own children as much as they hate Israel there will be peace

 

i have found this rather disturbing, but i have not seen any proof of its accuracy. i must admit that i have not looked for it either, but now that it seems that you know about it can you show some evidence of this?

 

i agree with everything that you have said here but i come to a different conclusion. i think peace is the only solution. usually the people that oppose the peace process are wrong
sooner or later. one day the palestanians will become capable of doing major damage. this might not come for another 20 years or maybe 200!? if israel want to be there for the next 5000 years then she has to find peace with these people.
for 60 years they have killed each other and still there is no resolution. this is not the way.we can not allow extreemists to win and continue this situation.
and palestanians also must accept that they have lost and can not get all they want or they can wait for 200 years or more
people on both side must come up with a way for them to live with each other
people at peace table must stop bickering like they are on the opposite side. opposite side are the extremists and if there is a final agreement then we win
you know what the politicians say and do, is not always right and the best solution

 

The Palestinians, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah, etc., all are happy to attack Israel from civilian areas. Israel, in an effort to protect its citizens responds. That is what the picture above represents. Sadly, I think it shows culture in Gaza where fighting Israel takes precedence over protecting your family. I can't fathom how else a parent could vote for Hamas (knowing they would attack Israel from civilian areas - and invite an Israeli reponse) and how they allow Hamas to conduct attacks in their name from civilian areas.

Sadly, when the Palestinians allow Hamas to attack Israel daily from their homes and apartment buildings, they are using their own children and citizens as human shields. I don't buy that the citizens are fearful of Hamas. They vote them to power, hold rallies in their support. It is clear that the Palestinians themselves prefer to attack Israel then protect their own children.

If Hamas did not launch daily missiles from civilian areas there would be no attacks to stop those missiles.

I find it especially odd that many people seem to think that because one side suffers more casualties that they are the victim or that makes their position correct.

 

the pictures what pictures?
show me a picture where they shoot a misile from their home or when they attack israel with their family around.
you talk like this is their tactic so show it to me?

 

your very ignorant... firstly not all people in ghaza are from plo most of the children that died have no connection with hamas or plo. secondly these children are hid in their houses but are bombed, shot at, and executed by isreali forces.
get your facts straight.
also there have been around 9 rockets shot not daily...
also only 3 isrealis have died...
also olmart says:
"The objective is reducing the rocket fire and weakening Hamas. Everything is possible... air strikes, ground strikes and special operations are all being discussed,"
hmm..... how the hell are you supposed to stop rocket fire by attacking civilians?? this only spreads hate and anger and causes more rocket fire evolving into a big cycle of bs.

 

You show me the picture of Israel targeting an innocent child and not the source of a missile attack.

Do you think Israel is purposely attacking a child? Do you think Israel just likes to see dead children? Or, do you think that Israel, in spite of the results, feels it is necessary to defend its own citizens by attacking the sources of missiles? Are the dead children a result of Hamas using them as human shields by attacking from civilian areas?

Your silence every day in the face of those daily attacks speaks volumes about your true feelings for those innocent children. Your ire should be directed at Hamas as they are truly terrorizing not only Israel but the Palestinians as well.

 

When those citizens allow missiles to be launched from their homes and buildings there is a price to pay. Israel is attacking the source of the missiles - not people. If the missiles are located in civilian areas, that is the sole fault of Hamas and the Palestinians. Israel should not feel restricted because Hamas acts in a manner to jeopardize its own people.

If you have any integrity answer this question. Hamas is attacking Israel from civilian buildings in Gaza. How should Israel respond?

 

orly??
first look at this:



second look at this:


the kid and his father were killed when they were asking for mercy...
did you forget that instance?

 

i have not said anything like that and i do not believe that either.
so i do not see why are you ranting?
back to my question. can you show any proof?

 

The story behind that photo is not so clear. I can get into that later if you want.

However, it is not relevant anyway.

I will be the first to admit that there are innocent Palestinians as well as innocent Israelis killed in the conflict. I do not take the silly position that just because a Palestinian dies it is Israel's fault.

The current action is 100% Hamas's responsibility. They have attack Israel daily for months. Where was the PA government trying to stop them. Where was the protests by the Palestinian people saying "don't attack from our homes". Simply, the Palestinian people vote for Hamas, support the attacks, and then, when the consequences comes, they cry foul to the world.

You know who has my sympathy? The Israelis faced with the horrible situation of being bombed daily or being forced to attack a civilian building to protect its citizens. It is exactly this situation that Hamas seeks to create.

 

Do you think the missiles are coming from somewhere else and Israel is purposely not attacking the missile sites and instead attacking families?

C'mon. You are the one proposing the absurd position - you back it up. Common sense tells you exactly what is happening.

 

do you think if they did that it would be a bad thing?

 

I think anyone purposely attacking civilians for no reason is bad. An example of this is the daily missile attacks by Hamas targeting civilian areas in Israel.

I do not think attacking a building that is the source of missile attacks is bad even if innocent civilians are present. Obviously the goal is to minimize any civilian casualties. Unfortunately, that is the precise predicament Hamas hopes to place Israel in by using populated areas to launch their attacks.

 

The missiles are small, inexpensive, mobile and always on the move.

To answer your question, Pizza....if the Israelis could target the missiles and could target civilians and instead of targeting the missiles purposefully targeted civilians that would be wrong in my book.

Because they can't target the missiles, which are always hidden they inflict heavy force. Over time, as has happened in the past, that tends to stop the violence starting from the Palestinian side. Unfortunately, sometimes that time frame takes years (past Infata periods.)

The latest missile attacks are threatening Israeli vital areas including power stations that supply approximately 25% of the electricity to the nation.

If you think they are going to let that happen you are crazy.