Israel offensive on Gaza that has killed more than 100 Palestinians

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by zangief, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #21
    The Hamas terrorists are using human shields.

    So Israel doesn't need to protect its cities from daily rocket attacks?
     
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  2. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #22
    They should, noone, at least those with common sense, opposes when they attack those whoever is killing their people.

    They are using children as shields, or whatever fence you are sitting on the Israel-Palestine territory, will not justify the killing of these dozens of kids.
     
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    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #23
    Maybe if Israel dropped a bomb on cities in Gaza for every rocket that went into Israel maybe the rockets would stop falling in Israel
     
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  4. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Adolph Hitler thought that killing every jew would be the solution , do you agree with that , too ? Cause you are doing the same thing.


     
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  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #25
    You are not making sense.

    Would Turkey bomb Iraqi cities if the PPK were firing rockets at Turkey from them?

    You are comparing death camps to the Israelis firing back after thousands of rocket attacks.

    Hamas needs to stop firing rockets at Israel or face the consequences.

    The Gazans need to stop electing terrorist governments or face the consquences.
     
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  6. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Would what would Turkey do be the answer? I don't present Turkey as a role model here so i don't see the correlation with this particular topic. You probably mean that there is nothing else better to do which is supposed to be a justification to what happened.

    I am not defending Hamas, and did not earlier, but there is something wrong here, it's bright clear, however for your side, is it the constant fear of being called an anti-semite what causes you guys to never actually say Israel is wrong in whatever they do, or is it defend the ally no matter what?
     
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  7. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #27
    I am not comparing the death camps to Israel killings , I am telling that if you are killing the innocent and civilians you are evil and the same as Hitler and the Nazis.
    Does this consequences include genocide of the palestinians as Israel is doing now ?



     
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  8. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Israel may be doing things that are 'wrong' but obviously they don't see another alternative. It seems anybody else sees another alternative as nobody says 'do this' instead they just go 'stop doing that'. Perhaps if the palestinian leaders endured the same pressure the palestinian people would stop supporting them and would seek for leaders interested in peace. This is the viable alternative to my opinion, but it requires a palestinian move.
     
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  9. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #29
    UN condemns Israeli-Palestinian violence

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080302/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_israel_palestinians

    We can't propose better rational alternatives here, it takes a great deal of spesific knowledge of geography, demographics of the territory and deep intelligence which noone except those who professionally studied or worked for that issue will know. Otherwise it'd be like watching a game and saying i could score that goal if i would; beer talk. Bu we know there are those who can develop better solutions without a doubt. We can say what's wrong here and condemn it, and that's what some of us do.
     
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  10. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #30
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_refugee_camps

    Firstly they should find a solution to the homeless palestinians , if people have no hope for future and their land are taken from their hands.This is terror and this causes terror as a reaction.


    http://www.un.org/unrwa/access/index.html
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #31
    Anyone think zangrief would ever come to the forum and post:

    "Palis firing rockets into Israel again and killing Jews daily"

    Probably not, huh? About the same chance as guerilla starting a post with something positive about America. I'd have better odds playing the lottery.

    Muslims can do no wrong. It's perfectly acceptable that they have been firing rockets daily for who knows how long, killing untold numbers. Israel shows unprecedented restraint until it's clear the savages are not going to let up, no matter what, then fire back. Suddenly their is outrage! Hey, ain't nothing to kill those naughty infidel Jews, but when muslims die for doing what the quran tells them....holy mohammad, pass the bacon!
     
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  12. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #32
    Israel has 1 million Palestinians living within its boarders and has expected 1 million Jewish refugees from muslim lands.

    The Israelis have done enough. The Muslims need to integrate the millions of Palestinians that have been born in their countries rather than keeping them confined in concentration camps.
     
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  13. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Palestinians want their homeland and they are palestinians firstly why should they integrate and lose their identity.
     
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  14. SecureWebDev

    SecureWebDev Active Member

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    #34
    Show me numbers of deaths on each side, 'innocent' deaths that is, most likely children since those are the truly innocents
     
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    #35
    That's a typical GTech response, did you get that from your saved notepad? :p

    Both sides are completely out of order GTech.

    But as you love war then you probably want to see this going on, as you will not go out to fight the "war" that you support out in Iraq and Afghanistan why not get out to Israel and ask if you can join the IDF?

    Compared to the Muslims hardly any IDF get killed so the cards are stacked in your favour. ;)
     
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  16. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #36
    If people (if you can call them that) were firing rockets at your family or citizens would you not respond with force?

    Maybe G can tell us why this is not appropriate in this 'instance';)
     
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    #37
    9 rockets were shot. 4 isreali citizens injured and 2 people. against 100+ innocent people killed with 1/3 of them being kids.
     
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  18. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Yes I would respond with force but killing civilians and children is not the solution.It only makes the problem worse there are over 4 million palestinians have been thrown away from their land and homeless.
    They are paying the sins of european countries , their land can not be promised to other people.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #39
    I disagree. The enlightening part, though, is that you took the time to tell "me" such, but for some odd reason, you didn't take the time to do the same for those arguing on behalf of terrorists. If typical is something you are looking to expose, I'd say your response was a clear winner. Congratulations!
     
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  20. SecureWebDev

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    #40
    no one aids terrorists... they terrorize innocent people and who likes that?
     
    SecureWebDev, Mar 2, 2008 IP