Angelina Jolie says the US Troop Surge in Iraq is Working

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #41
    Sometimes people say things indirectly. I believe Bogart has already demonstrated this. The fact that she is there and will be staying there for a while would also indicate this.

    Again, bogart has already demonstrated this. If "overall violence was up," she would not be there. Still, no one in this thread used the words you stated were used. It seems like splitting hairs.

    Do you believe the overall violence is down in Iraq? I do, and I'm not ashamed to say it.

    Characterizing what someone has said, and not necessarily using their exact words, isn't a bad thing. However, the contrast between what Jolie has said and the example you use regarding me is far fetched. The notion that Jolie believes the surge is working is demonstrated in the fact that she believes opportunity exists for humanitarian efforts. This could not be accomplished otherwise. However, I don't believe anyone here would suggest I said what you used in your example above.

    Now, there are plenty of people here who want the US to lose at all cost. There are plenty here who will stab soldiers in the back (I'm not referring to you, btw) by claiming to care about them and wanting them home, then on the same day start a thread and blame them all for the actions of a few by means of torture. I'm not one of those guys.

    We've been through this before, when Harry Reid sold America out by claiming a victory for al qaida. He said America had lost, and while the meaning was the same, you resorted to splitting hairs on the exact quote of what he said. I see the same thing here.

    Question: Do you believe Jolie would be moving forward for humanitarian efforts and staying in Iraq, if she didn't believe the overall violence in Iraq was down? If you can answer that question honestly, there's probably not much else to discuss on the issue.


    No, I didn't bother reading them. I know better. I do have a recommendation though. Seven is a good number in sales when trying to sell someone on an idea. Next time, try eleven. Here's why...seven is good, it's the half way point between 5 and ten. Ten is too cliche. But one more than ten says "hey, this is even more than ten!"
     
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  2. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #42
    I wonder who is frustrated :D

    The Sun-Times Angelina Jolie: Troop surge has allowed more aid to Iraqis

    http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/people/819635,angelina022908.article

    KSDK NewsChannel 5 - Angelina Jolie Says U.S. Troop Surge In Iraq Has Created Chance For Increased Aid

    http://www.ksdk.com/news/watercooler/hot_topics_article.aspx?storyid=141288

    FoxNews: Angelina Jolie Says Troop Surge Creating Opportunity to Help Iraqi Refugees

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333730,00.html

    Bogart: Angelina Jolie Says the Troop Surge Is Working :D
     
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  3. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Looks like another BS THREAD made by the neocon supporters of this lie of a war claiming that Jolie said the surge is working. What a joke these people are. Lets just hope the deal with iran is working, but i wonder what we gave up to iran to allow them to let this troop surge work? This is what scares me the most.

     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #44
    That's what makes us all unique, though not all of us are "naughty Jews" that some despise so much.

    I saw it in a different way. To me, it looked like a bunch of anti-war (at all cost) liberals were pissed about the fact the surge in Iraq has worked and that Jolie eluded to such by the fact that she sees opportunity and is staying. We certainly can't have progress in Iraq...that would mean a defeat for al qaida and how terrible that would be?

    As Jim so correctly pointed out, early on, most of us didn't need Jolie to tell us. I've been covering the success of the surge in Iraq for many months now, while some of the very same people were absolutely upset over the success.
     
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  5. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #45
    Jesus Christ, who let GTech back in? :(

    More support and love for a total fake sham "war" that has killed thousands upon thousands of people and hasn't made the USA (or indeed the world) any more safer.

    Angelina Jolie saying that surge is working is not going to change the fact that it isn't, it's puerile nonsense.
     
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  6. *Mayank*

    *Mayank* Notable Member

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    #46
    I don't understand USA. At first, kill millions of people and then AID and SUPPORT. If the US troops had never gone to Iraq on first place, Iraq would be completely fine rather than war torn. What kind of support is US giving after tearing it apart?
     
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  7. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #47
    So from your view point if the US never liberated Kuiwait from Saddam and Iraq, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place :D:D
     
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    *Mayank* Notable Member

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    #48
    From my point of view. If US did not kill millions, there would be much less problems actually.
     
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  9. SolutionX

    SolutionX Peon

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    #49
    I never though Angelina Jolie was that hot anyway, so I don't know why I should listen to her.
     
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    #51
    Bogart, if only I believed that your carnal lust was a stronger force than your neurotic paranoia. :D
     
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