Angelina Jolie says the US Troop Surge in Iraq is Working

well as long as Angelina Jolie thinks it's working.....

 

It has, on both accounts. So much so, that troop levels will be scaled down this summer.

This is incorrect. The surge has been working since last summer. I've covered this before, to the dismay of some. Reports from a few months ago said if the success continues (and it has), they will scale back this summer.

I doubt this. Source?

The surge has been working. Giving credit to our enemies when credit is due to "our" soldiers for their hard work is pretty disgusting. But then not everyone wants al qaida in Iraq defeated.

 

I gave relevant keywords in my previous responses to this thread, as well as in other threads recently.

It's no reflection on the troops' effort or sacrifice, if they are forced to follow a failed strategy.

 

I wasn't asking for SEO advice on how to rank for negativity towards America in Google. I was asking for a source. The lack of a source tells me what I need to know.

They are not following a failed strategy nor is their efforts in Iraq failure. Wishing for such doesn't make it so. The surge has worked and continues to work. Giving "our" soldier's credit away to the enemies they are fighting is wrong and it's false.

 

I hope teh surge is working , but my gut instincts tell me that yet again as they have mentioned before it has something to do with the iranians just as their proxy army hezbolla has alot to do with them. Anyone naive enough to think a few ten's of thousands of soldiers is gonna do the trick obviously doesnt understand the mentality of the proxy armies in that region.

 

The sources (as stated) have been posted. Act like a grownup. Learn to use Google or read the forum.

The surge is not working. Again, you're just repeating the same failed rhetoric of months ago. Much has come to light, including the fact that Al Sadr has agreed to a truce, and the Awakening is being paid daily, per man, to not fight.

When the British withdrew, violence went down. Of course, you tried to spin that months ago as well.

The surge hasn't worked, we are unable to draw down to pre-surge levels, and the Iraqi government is setting a high standard for incompetence.

You actually do the troops a disservice when you beat the drum for them to stay in Iraq, fighting a failed strategy. Just because they serve, is no excuse to risk their lives to protect political decision makers and ideological fanatics.

You can say the surge is working as many times as you like. It doesn't make it true. In fact, the recent evidence is to the contrary.

 

You have posted no source in this thread. Not a single one. But I have come to expect this from you. You don't have one and instead of posting it, attempt to lay fault with me for not seeing the magical source you provided in this thread...as if I wouldn't go back and check.

This is false. The surge is working and continues to be reported as such. I've asked for a source on this, you've failed twice to produce one.

This is dishonest. I corrected you on this back then. The British did not withdraw, they repositioned. I'm not surprised that you would reach out to give a victory to al qaida though. Still, you are wrong, though I'm sure you wished it were true.

The surge has worked. al qaida is defeated and they are in a disarray. Wishing it were not true, doesn't not change the facts.

The surge has already worked. I'm sorry you are so disappointed by it, that you seek to rewrite history as it's being made. I'll never understand the hatred that motivates people to do such.

You have provided no evidence, despite my asking for it twice. You'll forgive me for not taking the "word" of someone who spends an inordinate amount of time portraying America and her military in a bad light, while praising our enemies.

 

Actually decreased violence would indicate
the troop surge is working, no matter how it was accomplished.

 

I didn't see her state that the surge is working. She did state the some troops don't want to "go home as soon as possible", but that's not the same as the surge working. The point of the surge wasn't to increase the morale of troops already lucky enough to be hanging around Angelina Jolie.

 

She should morph back into Tomb Raider and beat some ass.

 

Addressing the question of whether the "troop surge" has worked, Jolie said that "I can only state what I witnessed."

Angelina Jolie said that the reinforcement of U.S. troops in Iraq has created an opportunity for humanitarian programs to boost assistance for Iraqi refugees.

The opportunity Angelina Jolie is refering to was a reduction in violence which is the goal of the troop surge.

 

Yes, she can only state what she witnessed...

Of course, with more troops I'd bet they get more escorts, making it a bit safer...

Are you putting words in her mouth? When did she say that the overall violence level is down?

She said more troops gave them more opportunities, not "more troops have significantly lowered the violence levels"; right?



EDIT: The title of the actual story is "Jolie sees benefit in US surge in Iraq", which is a far cry from "the US Troop Surge is Working"...

 

Angelina Jolie is in a position to know what's going on. She is on the ground in Iraq.

Jolie met Gen David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq

 

When did I question what kind of position she's in, where she is, or who she's met?

I'm simply asking, when did she say that the overall violence level is down? Where's the quote where she said the "surge is working" (as stated in this thread's title)? Or, are you putting words in her mouth?

 

I see only one person that has made reference to the words "overall violence level is down" in this thread. To be sure, I actually entered the phrase in the browser and searched both page one and two. Now, I don't mind saying it, because it's factually correct..."the overall violence level in Iraq is down very much." Any rationale person who isn't driven by a hatred over the war could clearly see that. I'm wondering who you believe it is that wrote those words that you are suggesting were placed in her mouth?

Is that really the beef, though? I can't imagine someone simply splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs (well, I can, but I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt). Perhaps the blog post in your recent blog entry is giving us more insight?

 

Excellent, I love seeing someone not simply jump onto anything because it is on their 'side'.

 

1. I'm not disputing whether or not the violence is down, or where Angelina Jolie is, or who she's had her picture taken with; The title of this thread is Angelina Jolie says the US Troop Surge in Iraq is Working, and no where in that news article is there a quote saying that... I have a problem with people that say another person said something, that they actually didn't say...

2. As for the "Overall violence is down" search... A drop in "overall violence" is a term that has been used to define a goal for the surge... Now, the OP stated that Angelina Jolie said the surge is working... I can't find any quote in the article where she said the surge is working, the overall violence is down, or even that she felt safer being there...

Putting words in someone's mouth isn't splitting hairs, if you believe it is, then you won't mind me going around saying:
GTech said the iraq war is a waste of blood, time, and money

Would you like to argue any of those seven points in the post?

 

Did Drew really say that? He was probably the only "celebrity" I liked.

 

Are we going to have more hair-slipping? Let's cut to the chase. The troop surge is working.

Angelina Jolie says the US Troop Surge in Iraq is Working is the title of the thread. Quotes are not used, because it is not a direct quote.

Jolie said that "I can only state what I witnessed." is a direct quote. Angelina Jolie witnessed that it is now more possible to give humanitarian aid beacuse the level of violence is down.

The UN Secretary-General also says the troops surge is working.

UN Secretary-General Welcomes Reduction in Violence Across Iraq

The reduction in the overall number of attacks reported across Iraq is a welcome development.

http://www.un.org/radio/8569.asp

 

You sound frustrated, relax.

So, now you're admitting that you're the one claiming the surge is working, and not Angelina Jolie?

GTech says bogart needs to not put words in people's mouths. <--- Notice I didn't use quotes... Wow, putting words in other people's mouths is fun!

No! it didn't say that...

It says:
the reinforcement of U.S. troops in Iraq has created an opportunity for humanitarian

Not:
beacuse the level of violence is down
^ Search for this (your words) in the article

There's a big difference there!

I'm not debating less attacks, I'm pointing out that you made some assumptions in your post that border on blatantly misleading...