fu*k paypal

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by dejan, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. AutumnBreeze

    AutumnBreeze Peon

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    #21
    No point cussing out paypal. It isn't their fault you were scammed. I have had zero problems with them, but then I'm careful who I do business with ;)
     
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  2. tankard

    tankard Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Well, why don't you use MoneyBookers? Transactions are cheaper and they are really nice guys. Well, I've got a *ayPal account but I am not too keen on using it. Only signed up because my buddies had accounts :D

    For everyday business stuff I use MoneyBookers and I am happy with it. So, switch to Bookers and forget about *ayPal!
     
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  3. swishman

    swishman Well-Known Member

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    #23
    realy paypal is sucks :(
     
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  4. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    #24
    Ur balance just went in negative ,u did not loose any money,forgot about that account and move on.
     
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  5. arnab

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    #25
    paypal is not perfect but currently there is no good alternative of paypal.
     
    arnab, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  6. mrdesigner77@yahoo.com

    mrdesigner77@yahoo.com Well-Known Member

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    #26
    use mony booker it is more secure and no charge back
     
    mrdesigner77@yahoo.com, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  7. KameronK

    KameronK Active Member

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    #27
    Paypal is God awful. I sell thousands of digital download or ebooks a year. They are an online product. They are not shipped. If anyone files a dispute, I lose. Talked with Paypal dozens of times, they don't care. This year, I'm taking my business elsewhere. (Namely, I'm becoming my own merchant).

    Paypal doesn't care about the sellers because they know we need them. They only care about the buyers because, if the buyers use Paypal, the sellers need it. We're stuck in a terrible loop. Basically they know they have us by the "you know what".
     
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  8. traffic4sale

    traffic4sale Banned

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    #28
    yeah your right, but if you have proof like email or something ..... then you can win ... its a matter of proof..
     
    traffic4sale, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  9. hav0c

    hav0c Notable Member

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    #29
    If you read the terms, PayPal doesn't offer protection to digital goods. It's not PayPals fault that you are taking the risk with such transactions. They do no only side with buyers. If a buyer disputes a charge with their credit card company, it's almost out of PayPal's hands on the decision. Such transactions don't only apply to PayPal, but to any merchant that accepts credit cards and creates billions of dollars lost per year.
     
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  10. kush86

    kush86 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Yes there is: moneybookers and alertpay.

    You can do charge backs with moneybookers.

    We have other choices besides paypal. Try moneybookers or alertpay.
     
    kush86, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  11. bookm

    bookm Banned

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    #31
    or plimus is good option to i think...but i know that they have chargebacks too.
     
    bookm, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  12. sajidmm

    sajidmm Peon

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    #32
    they never charge back instant, there must be some dispute open. is it? scammer pay you by credit card? then he may use other person card.
     
    sajidmm, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  13. microtekblue

    microtekblue Well-Known Member

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    #33
    What did you even sell him? A product or service or what?

    Anyone know if you sell a service, and get paid with paypal...can the buyer try to scam you later on and get his money back somehow?
     
    microtekblue, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  14. xXKingdom_SEOXx

    xXKingdom_SEOXx Peon

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    #34

    You’re mad…. understood. Disclosing his email address will not benefit you in any way and asking for someone to hack him is foolish. Your case is unfortunate but I don’t think you reserve the honorable right to dispatch such confidential information. Personally I am not a fool and I refuse to use paypal for major fund activity. I can understand your case, the question is, and where were you when the whole world expressed that paypal sucks? I think everyone who continues to use paypal’s services deserve to be scam, and yes, I say so blandly. Paypal is in the corporate field and could care less of measly dollars (which is hundreds to you). Hopefully people wouldn’t use there services if they cherish their change. Paypal has a corporate mindset, and they have to stick to the person who calls chargeback at first. It is in your opportunity to decide whom you deal with, paypal cannot focus on small cases, so the only option is to go against people like yourself, lesson learned hopefully, everyone planning to use paypal frequently or worse yet on sustainable bases might want to read the horror stories and reconsider. I am not happy that you were scammed, I’m happy that knowing well paypal wouldn’t side with you yet you stilled use their services THEN got scammed.

    Please, and Thanks.
     
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  15. mhmtozek

    mhmtozek Peon

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    #35
    I have a question here, when I receive a credit card payment through paypal, is it very important me to have a transaction code? Does that transaction code works as a proof?
     
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  16. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    #36
    Paypal certainly did not scam you, it is the scammer who happened to use the paypal platform who scammed you. Chargebacks is the function of the bank and once the card holder raised it and the bank approved it, paypal is powerless over their decision.

    The deal is yours and you got the money earlier and it is not like Paypal will absorbed the lost to your transaction which you and your customers entered into the contract into. Paypal did not actively involved itself in your transaction apart as to act as a conduit to receive funds for you.

    Use any platform which accepts credit cards and you face the same issue.
     
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  17. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    #37
    No, the transaction code certainly just tell you about the transfer of funds but it is certainly not proof of delivery on your part.

    A contract is made up of 2 parts, a willing buyer and a willing seller who agrees on a deal whereby the buyer sends a consideration (in this case, money) to the seller and the seller sends the goods or provides the services. In the modern sense, you will need to have proof of delivery, invoices and other sales documentations to work as proof.
     
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  18. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Iv been stung about £1000 of charge backs from paypal... I blame paypal the reason being is how the hell am i meant to know that there using an unauthorized account its ridiculous paypal should product me i end up losing my product and my money I have reported them to the watchdogs as im not paying anymore chargebacks
     
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  19. Valley

    Valley Peon

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    #39
    Paypal suck big time.
    I used to put an embaressing amont through each month and they were practically taking me out to dinner.. I left due to politics and a point of a percent, and lost a few hundred to my debtor of the month.
    A very unfair process and experience.
     
    Valley, Feb 29, 2008 IP
  20. Valley

    Valley Peon

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    #40
    NO
    Even with proof of delivery u can loose.
    They hide behind emails
     
    Valley, Feb 29, 2008 IP