Why White House support dictators?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by sami1255, Feb 27, 2008.

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    Thats more likely to be a thread of members interested in southasia, pakistan politics..

    One can see pro Musharraf parties kicked out of by people in elections 2008 because of Musharraf's ruthless 8 years of dictation.. there has been a perception that people here (pakistan) might support anti americans, so called Islamic parties but it never happened.. The vote was casted mostly to liberal parties. Still am seeing white house backing up a dictator.. (see here) people here dont wanna see Musharraf any more.. but so called democratic US stands on his back..

    Why governments don't believe in people? why you support dictators.. i guess its 2008 we are living in.. :mad:
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO it is a matter of political convenience that the White House supports dictators. If that particular dictator happened to be in a strategic position to help White House policies, he is supported so as to further the aims of USA. Whether or not he is a dictator seemed to count less.
     
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    sami1255 Well-Known Member

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    well, then US shouldn't shout loud for democracy if strategic interests comes first
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    US has been shouting democracy for a long time, Bush was giving lectures to China while torturing prisoners in Iraq. I think in the political spectrum doublespeak is common.
     
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    Ethically, it was wrong for us to support Musharraf. Unfortunately, it has created some bad feelings towards the US. Musharraf may have done most everything wrong, but he has done one thing we have respect for. That is to fight against Al Qaeda. If you have a new leader that does not support Al Qaeda, then everything will smooth out. I cannot speak for our government, but I think they will be eager to have good relations with Pakistan. They are probably just nervous about the change because Pakistan is a nuclear country. If al qaeda or taliban took over, well they hate us, and it is something we don't want to see. But I really like the Pakistani people (at least the ones I have met on DP) and hopefully it will get better. America is just afraid of the islamic extremist i.e. 911. But you are right, Musharraf was not a good leader. I hope our countries will remain friends.
     
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    Dictators? Give me a break! Imagine a world without governance compared to a world where you still have freedom of opportunity, you are in the best state of government whether you want to accept it or not. If you don’t like to be dictated, get an education, acquire a secure income and live your warm private life, isn’t that the plan? I love government irregardless of how tight of control is set because I would rather that than have rebels running around, look at the wars going on for example. The goal right now is education and skills to acquire security if you don’t want your life be JUST government based dependent. This is the best system so far, you don’t have to be involved into the BS going own, acquire a sense of uniqueness, energy, and privacy. As the world change, it is becoming every man for him. Government is good compared to bad; it’s a cold immoderate world without it.
     
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    sami1255 Well-Known Member

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    All i can say here is.. Musharraf isn't the only person who hate terrorism.. 160 million here aren't like blowing them selves in front of US convoy.. people here are moderate and peace loving than everybody else.. we got the same DNA and same number of chromosomes like every homosepian.. :rolleyes:
     
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    sami1255 Well-Known Member

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    yeah.. :rolleyes: .. i pray for your country, not to be ruled by any Dictator.. i suppose you never saw your ruler to suspend law and take your chief justice into custody and when some free people protest against the cruel act.. you hit them with clubs.. (here) hope you count lawyers in category called humans.. you don't want to be ruled by dictator.. trust me on this.. :) It isnt that easy to just sit here on DP and manage your earnings.. you'll get everything MOST unstable once your country has a suspended constitution.. you can't call dictatorship, a government.. its all one man show !
     
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    My friend, usually the governments start the wars, not the rebels.

    It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. And I mean it.
     
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    We have DNA and the same number of chromosomes as well! What a coincidence!:D But seriously Sami, I am extremely greatful to that 160 million. Peace.
     
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    sami1255 Well-Known Member

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    coz most of the people don't think in your way... "hey hes a muslim".. the next word that would come up in their mind is "suicide bomber"..
     
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    The accumulation and execution of power does strange things to people. I love my country and I respect my military but often enough I hate my government. I think a lot of people around the world feel the same way. Peoples is peoples after all.
     
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    Well, I live in the Bahamas and maybe I don’t have to deal with “dictatorship”, but still problems are here and governance is better than none, if referring to the United States (a place I previously planned to live there), then it is suffering, but I do believe freedom exists in the united states and it is human dependant, I personally have a deep knowledge of the structure of government and I govern myself, I’m saying that I’ve never encountered or noticed anything dictatorship-like of Russia nor Bahamas, that’s my say, sorry if yours is true.
     
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    We have been overthrowing democracies and supporting dictators since 1952 when the elected leader of Iran proposed nationalizing the oil industry against our economic interests. The propaganda campaign carried out by the CIA included associating democracy with atheism, and was intended to make the people see westernization as a threat to Islam.

    Don't take my word for it, ask the CIA:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...s/csi-studies/studies/vol48no2/article10.html
     
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