Gospel at Obama's Speeches?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by WeedGrinch, Feb 24, 2008.

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    Ok, so today I went to the Obama speech at Toledo, OH, and I waited for 4 hours for him to speak (wanted a good seat), and before he talked there was gospel singers, and a preacher there talking about God.

    I was just wondering why he does this, because for atheists like me, it was offensive...
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    perhaps he just learned Kerry's lesson.
     
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    Why was it offensive? Was he pressuring you to join his religion? No, he is just showing his beliefs.

    If he was an atheist he wouldn't do that because he doesn't have a religion. But the issue is you need to be a cristian, and act like you believe in God (whether you truly do or don't doesnt matter), because you need that to have a chance at the presidency.

    Would there be some great potential atheist presidents? Sure. Can they win the vote at this current time? Doubtfull.
     
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    Wow, where was the event held in Toledo? I'm glad I didn't have to sit through that. He was the only speaker when I saw him in NH.
     
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    Obama does the whole revivalist bit, even his wife speaks that way.

    I'd rather people didn't mix religion and politics.
     
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    Obama is a politically intelligent man, no drug like religion to dope the masses.
     
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    From what I understand, there were also mariachi players at the University of Toledo event. Like some others, it really troubles me when multicultural celebrations intrude on something so quintessentially American as a run for the Presidency.

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    There are still a lot of people that have read the emails and stuff online and legitimately think that he is a muslim. It is simply a political move to reassure those at the events that he is not an athiest or a muslim and he is banking on the idea that they will tell others about it as well. If Obama can get even a small portion of the christian vote, I think he is a sure-in for the Democrats.
     
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    But....but...but...this is, substantively, a huge issue! Are you kidding me? There were gospel singers and mariachis at his event? Oh, America, how far you have fallen.
     
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    He's definitely been pandering to the religious left moreso than any other Democrat candidate.
     
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    Well the majority of voters in America consider themselves Christians so from a political stand point it makes sense... I agree that I wish religion was kept out of politics... but, I think the important thing is that Obama doesn't seem to be pushed into any political positions because of religion.
     
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    I honestly don't think this was a religious thing as much as a cultural and political thing. The black church in America has long been an "engaged" institution, and it doesn't surprise me there was this presence at the rally. The presence of mariachis also just tells me this was in the theme, "America for all of us." I'd be very surprised if the pre-show was, in effect, a church service and not just a celebratory lead-up to the candidate's arrival.
     
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