Gods that Christians Dont Believe in.....AND Gods that Atheists Dont Believe in

I understand--I think I meant that in some people's cases they may be persecuted for it. I just don't like how some televangelists imply that you'll become wealthy and sublimely happy all the sudden and for your whole life if you convert.

Anyway, I think the fact that you want to believe, is enough, and I don't think you should worry. The mind can play all kinds of tricks on us, but I still believe that if my memory ever gets so bad that I can't even remember my faith, that Christ will still have my soul. The good earthly feelings I get from believing that I'll go to heaven are through endorphins in my brain, but the thing that will actually get me there is my soul (or heart).

I hope you live a long and happy life, and no more of those car wrecks.

Best Regards

 

That's weird because "gullible" is a real word and it means "easily fooled". Furthermore, I just googled it and got many search results entries in response. So who's gullible here, Cheap SEO Services? You or I?

 

Your response just answered that question perfectly

 

you mean the person blindly believing what he read in a book isn't the gullible one?

 

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I am atheist btw.

 

So I guess science was just beamed down into your mind by VALIS?

 

I don't get it. What do you mean?

 

I'm a strong believer in science and not religion, but I don't doubt other peoples beliefs or understandings of things. You do realize that all things are a "theory" in science, so in the same aspect religion can be a "theory" as well. A person who isn't blinded by their own belief in things could clearly see you are arguing about 2 things that aren't provable.

Lets say I believe in creation and god, in theory I could say that Satan purposely makes science disprove god to further his ability to capture your soul

Remember, religion says the great trickest the devil ever played was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

 

You are confusing speculation with a scientific theory.

In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation.

No religious "theory" is capable of making predictions.
No religious "theory" is falsifiable because ultimately their argument is "um, magic man done it", Which can easily side step any test where the results falsify the hypothesis.

Remember, Religion has actually convinced people that there is an invisible man who lives in the sky.

 

But you still read most of that in a book, and it made sense to you, so you stuck with it.

 

Read what in a book?

 

Science. Or maybe read it in a book + learned it from a teacher. How do you know they didn't make it all up?

One argument could be that you can test science for yourself, but can you test ALL of it?

I can test some of the things I read in the Bible, but I can't test all of it either.

My point: Your argument that it's stupid to believe in an invisible man in the sky because of reading it in a book can be turned back around on you.

 

I know they didn't make it up because they have a lot more than their word as evidence. There is mountains of supporting evidence, There are thousands of people performing different experiments testing the hypothesis and coming to the same conclusion. Their data is publicly available. Scientists don't sit around hoping to agree with each other. They go out of their way to disprove each other. it's peer review, the corner stone of the scientific process.

If the best you can do is say that because science come in book form and so does the bible they must be equally unbelievable and unsupported you should log off and go play habbo hotel or something, You are wasting our time.

I didn't argue that it's stupid to believe in an invisible man in the sky because it's in a book, I have nothing against books, some of my favorite books are fiction and have hardly any facts in them. My argument is that it's stupid to believe in an invisible man in the sky because it's a belief in an invisible man in the sky. it's irrelevant where you heard about this invisible man.

 

I believe in both, and that there is plenty of evidence for both, that both have the data publicly available, and that both are thoroughly peer reviewed.

It's not technically a belief in "an invisible man in the sky". It is "a clearly visible God, apparent in everything."

Sounds like you've studied Theology about as much as the imaginary Christians that you so despise have studied Science.

 

I take it this "clearly visible" god who is "apparent in everything" is going to come in the form of an argument from ignorance? i.e "look around! I don't know how all this happened, so god done it!"

 

Well, do you know what "done" the big bang? Or what done what done the big bang?

 

Are you serious? After i predicted that you are going to use a fallacious argument from ignorance you are actually going to go ahead and use one?

 

Here's something to think about

If gods were so all-powerful , why do atheists exist ?

So either gods don't mind or care as much as believer's do
or god's don't exist or are really tolerant.

 

Cause we'll all be judged AFTER we all die. Ahh how convenient.

 

Self-fulfilling prophesies are actually quite common.

So can you tell me the answer?