Need some help! How hard

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by GreenDog, Feb 24, 2008.

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    I would like to start a website about jack russell terriers. I am going to use this website to work on my seo skills.

    I would like to know how hard on a scale of 1-10 it would be to rank this website in the 10 ten using the keywords - jack russell terrier

    Also, I would like to know how to gauge the keyword competition.
     
    GreenDog, Feb 24, 2008 IP
  2. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    returns 3.4 million search result in google. moderate competition, should not be very hard
     
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  3. Bompa

    Bompa Active Member

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    Well, it's likely to be much more competitive than 'dog obedience training'.

    There is software available that claims to analyze the results. Usually sold
    as "keyword effectiveness" or "niche finder" software. I don't use any of those
    but I think other will chime in.

    The first thing I look at is just the total number of pages that Google found.
    For 'jack russel terrier', Google finds "about 3,390,000 for jack russell terrier".

    Compare that to 'dog obedience training':
    "about 753,000 for Dog Obedience Training."

    The total pages found is only a weak indicator because not every webmaster
    that has 'jack', 'russel', and 'terrier' on one of their pages is actually TRYING
    to rank for "jack russell terrier".

    To get a better indicator, I put quotes around the phrase. This sort of tells
    me how many pages are trying to rank for the exact phrase.

    about 3,340,000 for "jack russell terrier"

    In this case, the number is about the same; that's a sign of extreme
    competition in my book.

    I also notice if the Titles in the top ten results include the exact phrase and
    if they begin with the exact phrase.

    In this case, 9 of 10 START WITH the exact phrase. That's another sign of
    high competition in my book.

    Lastly, I click a few of the top sites, visit their homepage and note their PR.

    Sometimes I also use Yahoo Explorer to note the quantity of their backlinks.

    Let's see what other forum members have to say on this.

    Bompa
     
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  4. GreenDog

    GreenDog Active Member

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    I used the intitle function:

    intitle: Dog Obedience Training - 593,000 Results
    intitle: Jack Russell Terrier - 250,000
     
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  5. Bompa

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    On the other hand, I have seen small niches with less than 100,000 results
    that are extremely competitive, so really, the best way would be to check
    out the sites in the top ten. Are they great or are they shit?
     
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    Something like 5-7 at the midlle not easy but not hard

    Regards
     
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  7. grandaddy

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    Well, junkpedia.org is number three in the results so you decide.

    Seriously though, when I see a result with the pedia coming in the top of the results, I don't see a real problem in overtaking that page. Just create a quality, very informative site, get the links and you'll be right above them in less than a year if you put your mind to it. Looks like that term could use some good competition anyhow. ;)
     
    grandaddy, Feb 24, 2008 IP